Talk:SELF File Format and Decryption

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[edit] NPDRM Header

typedef struct 
{	
u32 block_type;         // this is 3(NPDRM)	
u32 block_size;         // this is 0x90(sizeof(Self_NPDRM))	
u32 unknown1;           // So far always 0	
u32 unknown2;           // So far always 0	
u32 magic;              // 0x4E504400(NPD)	
u32 unknown3;           // 1; 3 (version probably)
u32 license;            // 1 - Network License; 2 - Local License; 3 - Free	
u32 type;               // 0 - Module; 1 - Executable; 0x20 - Module (Update for Disc Based Game); 0x21 - Executable (Update for Disc Based Game)	
u8 titleid[0x30];	
u8 hash_unknown[0x10];	
u8 hash1[0x10];	
u8 hash2[0x10];	
u8 padding[0x10];	
} Self_NPDRM

Located after the Self Control Info.



[edit] App Info header:

Aligned to 0x10 bytes.

field offset type notes
authid 0x00 u64
unknown 0x08 u32
app_type 0x0c u32
  • 1 -- level 0
  • 2 -- level 1
  • 3 -- level 2
  • 4 -- application
  • 5 -- isolated SPU module
  • 6 -- secure loader
  • 8 -- NP-DRM application
app_version 0x10 u64

[edit] Appinfo offset 0x08

for some reason named vendor_id there. In geo makeself it was used as: set_u32(&(output_self_info_header.i_magic), 0x01000002); Not directly related to Authentication IDs, but seems to have many simularities with it, seems also related to SM ; LPAR's and their order suggests hierarchy/permission from high (can do everything) to low (lesser abilities).

'vendorid' count filetype
0xff000000 16 lv1.self's
0xff000000 4 ldr's
0x07000001 180 iso spu self's
0x05000002 17 lv2_kernel.self's
0x02000003 45 ps2_emu self's
0x01000002 6147 CoreOs / dev_flash files

[edit] Encrypted phdr offset entry

There is one of these entries for each phdr entry in the elf file so that the ps3 knows where to decrypt the data from. (because it might also be compressed.)

field offset type notes
Encrypted Data Offset 0x00 u64
Encrypted Data Size 0x08 u64
unknown 0x10 u32 This has been 1 in all the examples I have seen.
unknown 0x14 u32 Always 0, as far as I know.
unknown 0x18 u32 Always 0, as far as I know.
unknown 0x1c u32 This is 2 for loadable segment types, and 0 for other types.

[edit] Meta Checksums

There are 3 checksums at the offset specified by meta_offset.

  • The first is the sha1 checksum of the entire self file.
  • The 2nd checksum is the inverse of the first checksum.
  • The 3rd checksum is the first checksum XORed with 0xAAAAAA..AAAAAB

The PSJailbreak payload ignores the actual checksums, but checks that the 3rd checksum is the 2nd checksum XORed with 0xAAAAAA..AAAAAB

[edit] SDK Flags added

field offset type notes
Magic 0x0 u32 Must be "SCE\0"
version 0x4 u32 This must be 2 or the Self loader will abort
flags 0x8 u16
  • 0: retail type 0
  • 1: retail
  • 2: retail type 1
  • 0x8000: devkit
  • 4: unknown, games that require 3.42.
  • 7: unknown, all games that require 3.50 have that flag.
0001: FW 1.00 (app version 1.0.0)
...
0001: FW 3.15 (app version 3.15.0)
0001: FW 3.20 (app version 3.20.0)
0001: FW 3.21 (app version 3.21.0)
0001: FW 3.30 (app version 3.30.0)
0004: FW 3.40 (app version 3.40.0)
0004: FW 3.41 (app version 3.40.0)
0004: FW 3.42 (app version 3.40.0)
0007: FW 3.50 (app version 3.55.0)
000a: FW 3.55 (app version 3.55.0)
000d: FW 3.56 (app version 3.56.0)
0010: FW 3.60 (app version 3.60.0)
0010: FW 3.61 (app version 3.61.0)
0013: FW 3.65 (app version 3.65.0)
0013: FW 3.66 (app version 3.66.0)
0016: FW 3.70 (app version 3.70.0)
0016: FW 3.72 (app version 3.70.0)
0016: FW 3.73 (app version 3.73.0)
0019: FW 4.00 (app version 4.00.0)
0019: FW 4.01 (app version 4.01.0)
0019: FW 4.10 (app version 4.10.0)
0019: FW 4.11 (app version 4.11.0)

[edit] Region locking

SELF or SFO REGION_DENY?

http://www.ps3devwiki.com/index.php?title=File:Badregion-4.jpg

[edit] moved from old talk page

Talk:Signed Executable and Linkable Format (SELF)

[edit] nas_plugin.sprx

SELF
00000000  53 43 45 00 00 00 00 02  00 04 00 01 00 00 02 40  |SCE............@| magic SCE - version=2 - flags=4 - type=1=self - meta_offset=0x240
00000010  00 00 00 00 00 00 05 80  00 00 00 00 00 06 4d 58  |..............MX| header_len=0x580 - elf filesize=0x64d58
00000020  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 70  |...............p| unknown=3 - appinfo_offset=0x70
00000030  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 90  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 d0  |................| elf_offset=0x90 - phdr_offset = 0xd0
00000040  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 01 80  |................| shdr_offset=0x00 - section_info_offset=0x180
00000050  00 00 00 00 00 00 01 e0  00 00 00 00 00 00 01 f0  |................| sceversion_offset=0x1e0 - controlinfo_offset=0x1f0
00000060  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 70  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |.......p........| controlinfo_size=0x70 - unknown=0

APP INFO:
00000070  10 70 00 00 52 00 00 01  01 00 00 02 00 00 00 04  |.p..R...........| authid - unknown
00000080  00 03 00 40 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |...@............| programversion=0x030040 - unknown

ELF:
00000090  7f 45 4c 46 02 02 01 66  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |.ELF...f........| ident
000000a0  ff a4 00 15 00 00 00 01  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................| type=0xffa4 - machine=0x15 - version=1 - entry_point=0x00
000000b0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 40  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |.......@........| phdr_offset=0x40 - shdr_offset=0
000000c0  01 00 00 00 00 40 00 38  00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00  |.....@.8........| flags=0x100 - elf_header_size=0x40 - phentsize=0x38 - phnum=3 - shentsize=shnum=shstrndx=0

PHDR:
000000d0  00 00 00 01 00 40 00 05  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 f0  |.....@..........| type=1 - flags=0x400005 - offset_in_file=0xf0
000000e0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 04 5a 20  |..............Z | virtual_addr = 0x0 - physical_addr=0x45a20
000000f0  00 00 00 00 00 04 99 88  00 00 00 00 00 04 99 88  |................| segment_size=0x49988 - seg_mem_size = 0x49988
00000100  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10     	       	     	    		       alignment=0x10

	     	      	       	   00 00 00 01 00 60 00 06  |.............`..| type=1 - flags=0x600006
00000110  00 00 00 00 00 04 9a 80  00 00 00 00 00 04 99 90  |................| offset_in_file=0x49a80 virtual_addr = 0x49990 
00000120  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 39 a8  |..............9.| physical_addr=0x0 - segment_size=0x39a8
00000130  00 00 00 00 00 00 77 18  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10  |......w.........| seg_mem_size = 0x7718 - alignment=0x10

00000140  70 00 00 a4 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 04 d4 30  |p..............0| type=0x700000a4 - flags=0x00 - offset_in_file=0x4d430
00000150  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................| virtual_addr = 0x0 - physical_addr=0x0
00000160  00 00 00 00 00 01 79 28  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |......y(........| segment_size=0x17928 - seg_mem_size = 0x0
00000170  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10    	       	     	    		       alignment=0x10
				   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................| padding

SECTION INFO:
00000180  00 00 00 00 00 00 06 70  00 00 00 00 00 02 00 17  |.......p........| offset=0x670 - size=0x20017
00000190  00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01  |................| compressed=2 - unknown=0 - unknown=0 - encrypted=1

000001a0  00 00 00 00 00 02 06 90  00 00 00 00 00 00 1c ac  |................| offset=0x20690 - size=0x1cac
000001b0  00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01  |................| compressed=2 - unknown=0 - unknown=0 - encrypted=1

000001c0  00 00 00 00 00 02 23 50  00 00 00 00 00 00 4b 0c  |......#P......K.| offset=0x22350 - size=0x4b0c
000001d0  00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01  |................| compressed=2 - unknown=0 - unknown=0 - encrypted=1

SCE VERSION INFO:
000001e0  00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 10 00 00 00 00  |................| unknown=1 - unknown=0 - unknown=0x10 unknown=0

CONTROL INFO:
000001f0  00 00 00 01 00 00 00 30  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01  |.......0........| type=1=control_flags - size=0x30 - unknown=1
00000200  40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |@...............|
00000210  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................|

00000220  00 00 00 02 00 00 00 40  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |.......@........| type=2=file_digest - size=0x40 - unknown0
00000230  62 7c b1 80 8a b9 38 e3  2c 8c 09 17 08 72 6a 57  |b|....8.,....rjW| digest1
## metadata info: unknown
00000240  9e 25 86 e4 70 99 02 ae  b8 65 22 59 09 70 2f ed  |.%..p....e"Y.p/.| digest1 (4 bytes) - digest2 
00000250  cb da 56 87 a5 24 54 8e  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |..V..$T.........| digest2 - padding

METADATA INFO:
00000260  e6 18 5e 1c 6b 3f 6c 6a  75 47 5d a4 f9 b1 3d 78  |..^.k?ljuG]...=x| key
00000270  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................| key
00000280  d2 5a 0b 9a 13 fe 60 ca  a9 2b 90 a7 f1 df 35 7c  |.Z....`..+....5|| iv
00000290  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................| iv

METADATA HEADER:
000002a0  00 00 00 00 00 00 05 00  00 00 00 01 00 00 00 03  |................| signature_input_length=0x500 - unknown=1 - section_count=3
000002b0  00 00 00 18 00 00 00 30  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |.......0........| key_count=0x18 - signature_info_size=0x30 - unknown=0 - unknown=0

METADATA SECTION HEADER:
000002c0  00 00 00 00 00 00 06 70  00 00 00 00 00 02 00 17  |.......p........| data_offset=0x670 - data_size=0x20017
000002d0  00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00  |................| unknown=2 - program_idx=0 - unknown=2 - sha1_index=0
000002e0  00 00 00 03 00 00 00 06  00 00 00 07 00 00 00 02  |................| encrypted=3=yes - key_index=6 ivec_index=7 compressed=2=yes

000002f0  00 00 00 00 00 02 06 90  00 00 00 00 00 00 1c ac  |................| data_offset=0x670 - data_size=0x20017
00000300  00 00 00 02 00 00 00 01  00 00 00 02 00 00 00 08  |................| unknown=2 - program_idx=1 - unknown=2 - sha1_index=8
00000310  00 00 00 03 00 00 00 0e  00 00 00 0f 00 00 00 02  |................| encrypted=3=yes - key_index=14 ivec_index=15 compressed=2=yes

00000320  00 00 00 00 00 02 23 50  00 00 00 00 00 00 4b 0c  |......#P......K.| data_offset=0x670 - data_size=0x20017
00000330  00 00 00 02 00 00 00 02  00 00 00 02 00 00 00 10  |................| unknown=2 - program_idx=2 - unknown=2 - sha1_index=10
00000340  00 00 00 03 00 00 00 16  00 00 00 17 00 00 00 02  |................| encrypted=3=yes - key_index=16 ivec_index=17 compressed=2=yes

METADATA KEYS:
00000350  f8 2b ca 1f 5b 03 16 30  69 75 82 8c b4 95 76 c5  |.+..[..0iu....v.| key1
00000360  bd 03 09 ae 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................| key2
00000370  cb 18 c1 9e 44 d3 90 be  db d9 6d 59 00 54 fd 30  |....D.....mY.T.0| key3
00000380  4a b4 75 27 d1 bb b7 e0  0f 5b 60 4c 8b 67 c6 da  |J.u'.....[`L.g..| key4
00000390  83 98 13 bf ea 53 0f bd  af 83 52 17 51 a1 74 0a  |.....S....R.Q.t.| key5
000003a0  ab ea 6c 9e b9 f3 4b 8b  0a db e1 e6 96 7e 17 a6  |..l...K......~..| key6
000003b0  c6 5a c0 d3 a7 68 e1 7a  89 41 2a 32 15 73 82 1b  |.Z...h.z.A*2.s..| key7
000003c0  2c e6 7f 70 62 86 6e a9  36 ec f8 99 3a d4 ed 88  |,..pb.n.6...:...| key8
000003d0  69 7a ee a0 13 64 c9 38  7d 27 88 9e 95 76 ea 4a  |iz...d.8}'...v.J| key9
000003e0  2f 31 8e 13 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |/1..............| key10
000003f0  cb 18 c1 9e 44 d3 90 be  db d9 6d 59 00 54 fd 30  |....D.....mY.T.0| key11
00000400  4a b4 75 27 d1 bb b7 e0  0f 5b 60 4c 8b 67 c6 da  |J.u'.....[`L.g..| key12
00000410  83 98 13 bf ea 53 0f bd  af 83 52 17 51 a1 74 0a  |.....S....R.Q.t.| key13
00000420  ab ea 6c 9e b9 f3 4b 8b  0a db e1 e6 96 7e 17 a6  |..l...K......~..| key14
00000430  c6 5a c0 d3 a7 68 e1 7a  89 41 2a 32 15 73 82 1b  |.Z...h.z.A*2.s..| key15
00000440  2c e6 7f 70 62 86 6e a9  36 ec f8 99 3a d4 ed 88  |,..pb.n.6...:...| key16
00000450  ec 9a bc 91 0f 41 44 69  02 14 b2 8f bd 02 79 c4  |.....ADi......y.| key17
00000460  51 6d ac 7a 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |Qm.z............| key18
00000470  cb 18 c1 9e 44 d3 90 be  db d9 6d 59 00 54 fd 30  |....D.....mY.T.0| key19
00000480  4a b4 75 27 d1 bb b7 e0  0f 5b 60 4c 8b 67 c6 da  |J.u'.....[`L.g..| key20
00000490  83 98 13 bf ea 53 0f bd  af 83 52 17 51 a1 74 0a  |.....S....R.Q.t.| key21
000004a0  ab ea 6c 9e b9 f3 4b 8b  0a db e1 e6 96 7e 17 a6  |..l...K......~..| key22
000004b0  c6 5a c0 d3 a7 68 e1 7a  89 41 2a 32 15 73 82 1b  |.Z...h.z.A*2.s..| key23
000004c0  2c e6 7f 70 62 86 6e a9  36 ec f8 99 3a d4 ed 88  |,..pb.n.6...:...| key24

SIGNATURE INFO:
000004d0  00 00 00 01 00 00 00 30  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |.......0........| unknown=1 - signature_size=0x30 - unknown=0
000004e0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................| unknown=0 - unknown=0
000004f0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 7b  00 00 00 01 00 02 00 00  |.......{........| unknown=0 - unknown=0
00000500  00 1a 7a b5 11 0a 4a 41  2b 8e d6 8b 9e 18 1c 74  |..z...JA+......t| R[21]
00000510  58 5b 0e 94 a7 00 c2 24  cd 2d d1 1f 9b e2 81 71  |X[.....$.-.....q| R (5 bytes) - S[21]
00000520  dc 45 22 83 db 9e 72 38  2f 94 00 00 00 00 00 00  |.E"...r8/.......| S (10 bytes) - padding
00000530  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................| padding
00000540  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................| padding
00000550  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................| padding
00000560  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................| padding
00000570  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................| padding

ENCRYPTED ELF HEADER?:
00000580  36 2a 61 73 99 41 75 19  cc a7 42 22 fb f4 b5 cc  |6*as.Au...B"....|
00000590  68 06 c7 c1 7e b3 8d 49  d5 41 a7 ec b7 07 02 3b  |h...~..I.A.....;|
000005a0  b9 db ca 53 04 fb 64 b9  e8 82 f4 3c 58 13 60 0d  |...S..d....<X.`.|
000005b0  97 80 25 f5 13 a7 1b 09  35 e5 dd 9a 56 79 b2 a3  |..%.....5...Vy..|
000005c0  ba c9 fb f2 f6 10 47 22  f2 a7 94 a9 06 b8 68 7b  |......G"......h{|
000005d0  f6 3d 07 5b 29 51 e6 70  12 17 93 8e c8 01 bb 80  |.=.[)Q.p........|
000005e0  8d f6 c1 93 94 60 51 0c  76 43 99 4a dd 26 1a 56  |.....`Q.vC.J.&.V|
000005f0  4d ba 8d be df 91 70 93  46 ca b2 2d 67 24 5f 40  |M.....p.F..-g$_@|
00000600  ba 4d 92 b2 f0 c7 c8 67  92 f4 fe 24 ba 42 4d 90  |.M.....g...$.BM.|
00000610  9c 93 b9 9d 01 4a dc 4d  99 95 8d e9 92 97 2e ed  |.....J.M........|
00000620  8d 82 a4 0a 19 5b 85 3d  53 cf 24 a3 61 50 5f 42  |.....[.=S.$.aP_B|
00000630  a6 44 78 67 29 f5 ae 04  55 fd 7a cd fe 63 d9 63  |.Dxg)...U.z..c.c|
00000640  e4 18 95 0c 65 e5 22 a6  ba 8b fe ca a5 2e 0f 77  |....e."........w|
00000650  b7 3b c3 7b 81 03 72 67  f3 7c 16 68 ab 05 30 78  |.;.{..rg.|.h..0x|
00000660  d4 dc 5e 11 30 d5 cf 1a  55 fe 65 94 f9 18 b9 ab  |..^.0...U.e.....|

PROGRAM SECTION 0:
00000670  78 9c e4 bd 0f 7c 54 d5  99 3f 7c ce bd 13 92 00  |x....|T..?|.....|
00000680  6a d0 a0 a1 24 90 00 76  c1 60 89 5b ec 6f 62 82  |j...$..v.`.[.ob.|
00000690  4e 14 f7 73 31 d8 37 76  61 8d 8a ed 84 40 37 29  |N..s1.7va....@7)|
[....]
00020670  4b e6 31 a2 f7 0a 34 bf  4e cb 29 8c 61 c8 0a 22  |K.1...4.N.).a.."|
00020680  f7 ff 01 c0 d7 e4 42 bc  3f 7a 48 af 45 ef 28 3a  |......B.?zH.E.(:|

PROGRAM SECTION 1:
00020690  78 9c d5 9a 8d 5f d5 e5  dd c7 7f e7 9c 9f 0e 2d  |x...._.........-|
000206a0  8b 9a 95 36 2b d7 50 f1  91 c3 83 88 88 82 8a 8a  |...6+.P.........|
000206b0  8a 8a 0f 6b 6c b3 3b 89  07 41 11 f0 80 0a 8a 0a  |...kl.;..A......|
[...]
00022330  4e bb 13 f9 17 07 fd 1f  90 b6 10 8a bc 3f 7a 48  |N............?zH|
00022340  af 45 ef 28 3a 05 98 10  3f e8 79 3a da 48 d5 2c  |.E.(:...?.y:.H.,|

PROGRAM SECTION 2:
00022350  78 9c 75 bd 7b b4 9d f5  79 df b9 cf d1 91 10 12  |x.u.{...y.......|
00022360  11 ba 9c fb f5 3d f7 fb  fd 0e 42 da a0 2b e8 82  |.....=....B..+..|
00022370  84 24 74 01 27 1b 73 13  08 1b 01 02 24 ae 5b 20  |.$t.'.s.....$.[ |
00022380  09 64 0b 24 21 01 72 4d  d2 9d c4 ed f2 4c 3d 0d  |.d.$!.rM.....L=.|
[...]
00026e20  5d f5 3c 0f 1e ea eb 59  99 79 f0 f0 6d d7 21 fa  |].<....Y.y..m.!.|
00026e30  e1 d5 7a ff 61 1e 3c 7c  5b eb 6b 1e 3c 7c db 75  |..z.a.<|[.k.<|.u|
00026e40  08 1e 7e cd be 61 fe b0  5a df bf 9e 2f e0 73 b2  |..~..a..Z.../.s.|
00026e50  d2 d1 0f 0f be fa ff 01  59 ad 0c 11              |........Y...|
00026e5c


[edit] lv2_kernel.self

SELF:
00000000  53 43 45 00 00 00 00 02  00 00 00 01 00 00 01 e0  |SCE.............| magic SCE - version=2 - flags=0 - type=1=self - meta_offset=0x1e0
00000010  00 00 00 00 00 00 05 00  00 00 00 00 00 35 93 98  |.............5..| header_len=0x500 - elf filesize=0x359398
00000020  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 70  |...............p| unknown=3 - appinfo_offset=0x70
00000030  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 90  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 d0  |................| elf_offset=0x90 - phdr_offset = 0xd0
00000040  00 00 00 00 00 17 47 58  00 00 00 00 00 00 01 40  |......GX.......@| shdr_offset=0x174758 - section_info_offset=0x140
00000050  00 00 00 00 00 00 01 80  00 00 00 00 00 00 01 90  |................| sceversion_offset=0x180 - controlinfo_offset=0x190
00000060  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 70  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |.......p........| controlinfo_size=0x70 - unknown=0

APP INFO:
00000070  10 50 00 00 03 00 00 01  05 00 00 02 00 00 00 03  |.P..............| authid - unknown
00000080  00 03 00 55 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |...U............|programversion=0x030055 - unknown

ELF:
00000090  7f 45 4c 46 02 02 01 66  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |.ELF...f........| ident
000000a0  00 02 00 15 00 00 00 01  80 00 00 00 00 00 01 00  |................| type=0x02 - machine=0x15 - version=1 - entry_point=0x8000000000000100 
000000b0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 40  00 00 00 00 00 35 90 d8  |.......@.....5..| phdr_offset=0x40 - shdr_offset=0x3590d8
000000c0  00 00 00 00 00 40 00 38  00 02 00 40 00 0b 00 0a  |.....@.8...@....| flags=0x0 - elf_header_size=0x40 - phentsize=0x38 - phnum=2 - shentsize=0x40 - shnum=11 shstrndx=10

PHDR:
000000d0  00 00 00 01 00 00 00 05  00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00  |................| type=1 - flags=0x5 - offset_in_file=0x10000
000000e0  80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................| virtual_addr=0x8000000000000000 - physical_addr=0x8000000000000000
000000f0  00 00 00 00 00 33 29 48  00 00 00 00 00 33 29 48  |.....3)H.....3)H| segment_size=0x332948 - seg_mem_size = 0x332948
00000100  00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00     	       	     	    		       alignment=0x10000

	     	      	           00 00 00 01 00 00 00 06  |................| type=1 - flags=0x6
00000110  00 00 00 00 00 34 29 80  80 00 00 00 00 33 29 80  |.....4)......3).| offset_in_file=0x342980 - virtual_addr=0x8000000000332980
00000120  80 00 00 00 00 33 29 80  00 00 00 00 00 01 67 10  |.....3).......g.| physical_addr=0x8000000000332980 - segment_size=0x16710
00000130  00 00 00 00 00 13 23 e0  00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00  |......#.........| seg_mem_size=0x1323e0  - alignment=0x10000

SECTION INFO:
00000140  00 00 00 00 00 01 05 00  00 00 00 00 00 15 e8 cf  |................| offset=0x10500 - size=0x15e8cf
00000150  00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01  |................| compressed=2 - unknown=0 - unknown=0 - encrypted=1

00000160  00 00 00 00 00 16 ee 10  00 00 00 00 00 00 58 ff  |..............X.| offset=0x16ee10 - size=0x58ff
00000170  00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01  |................| compressed=2 - unknown=0 - unknown=0 - encrypted=1

SCE VERSION INFO:
00000180  00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 10 00 00 00 00  |................| unknown=1 - unknown=0 - unknown=0x10 unknown=0

CONTROL INFO:
00000190  00 00 00 01 00 00 00 30  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01  |.......0........| type=1=control_flags - size=0x30 - unknown=1
000001a0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................|
000001b0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................|

000001c0  00 00 00 02 00 00 00 40  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |.......@........| type=2=file_digest - size=0x40 - unknown0
000001d0  62 7c b1 80 8a b9 38 e3  2c 8c 09 17 08 72 6a 57  |b|....8.,....rjW| digest1
## metadata info: unknown
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000001f0  15 bf a6 78 b2 6a 71 f2  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |...x.jq.........| digest2 - padding

METADATA INFO:
00000200  f3 f3 d1 7d 4d d1 54 0f  1c 83 7a 1f d2 ba 4a f8  |...}M.T...z...J.| key
00000210  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................| key
00000220  ab 43 41 53 e8 2e 40 43  63 2b 44 6d 47 12 bb 83  |.CAS..@Cc+DmG...| iv
00000230  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................| iv

METADATA HEADER:
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00000250  00 00 00 16 00 00 00 30  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |.......0........| key_count=0x16 - signature_info_size=0x30 - unknown=0 - unknown=0

METADATA SECTION HEADER:
00000260  00 00 00 00 00 01 05 00  00 00 00 00 00 15 e8 cf  |................| data_offset=0x10500 - data_size=0x15e8cf
00000270  00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00  |................| unknown=2 - program_idx=0 - unknown=2 - sha1_index=0
00000280  00 00 00 03 00 00 00 06  00 00 00 07 00 00 00 02  |................| encrypted=3=yes - key_index=6 ivec_index=7 compressed=2=yes

00000290  00 00 00 00 00 16 ee 10  00 00 00 00 00 00 58 ff  |..............X.| data_offset=0x16ee10 - data_size=0x58ff
000002a0  00 00 00 02 00 00 00 01  00 00 00 02 00 00 00 08  |................| unknown=2 - program_idx=1 - unknown=2 - sha1_index=8
000002b0  00 00 00 03 00 00 00 0e  00 00 00 0f 00 00 00 02  |................| encrypted=3=yes - key_index=14 ivec_index=15 compressed=2=yes

000002c0  00 00 00 00 00 17 47 58  00 00 00 00 00 00 02 c0  |......GX........| data_offset=0x174758 - data_size=0x2c0
000002d0  00 00 00 01 00 00 00 03  00 00 00 02 00 00 00 10  |................| unknown=1 - program_idx=3 - unknown=2 - sha1_index=16
000002e0  00 00 00 01 ff ff ff ff  ff ff ff ff 00 00 00 01  |................| encrypted=1=no - key_index=-1 ivec_index=-1 compressed=1=no

METADATA KEYS:
000002f0  a0 40 36 6b 2d 8a 50 99  1e b3 0c 53 e5 9b 5d 6e  |.@6k-.P....S..]n| key1
00000300  61 2c ac b8 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |a,..............| key2
00000310  a0 79 91 e9 66 93 d8 d0  cc 57 c7 da c5 7d df 40  |.y..f....W...}.@| key3
00000320  78 d3 5a 96 be 8d 67 10  44 0b 4a 2d 8e cc a0 61  |x.Z...g.D.J-...a| key4
00000330  28 18 04 78 21 95 6b 69  2c d1 35 1f 69 a3 52 5f  |(..x!.ki,.5.i.R_| key5
00000340  97 1c 93 d8 99 52 2a 91  e4 3a b5 10 26 14 df 44  |.....R*..:..&..D| key6
00000350  b7 f9 6f 37 6f 86 f2 96  0d e5 92 ba 45 93 2f ee  |..o7o.......E./.| key7
00000360  53 6e 64 e9 ac 34 53 b6  85 57 4b 8e f8 9b 78 91  |Snd..4S..WK...x.| key8
00000370  30 7a 7b df 71 a5 95 ba  4a 2a 37 90 92 15 25 e6  |0z{.q...J*7...%.| key9
00000380  ef 65 b9 ee 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |.e..............| key10
00000390  a0 79 91 e9 66 93 d8 d0  cc 57 c7 da c5 7d df 40  |.y..f....W...}.@| key11
000003a0  78 d3 5a 96 be 8d 67 10  44 0b 4a 2d 8e cc a0 61  |x.Z...g.D.J-...a| key12
000003b0  28 18 04 78 21 95 6b 69  2c d1 35 1f 69 a3 52 5f  |(..x!.ki,.5.i.R_| key13
000003c0  97 1c 93 d8 99 52 2a 91  e4 3a b5 10 26 14 df 44  |.....R*..:..&..D| key14
000003d0  b7 f9 6f 37 6f 86 f2 96  0d e5 92 ba 45 93 2f ee  |..o7o.......E./.| key15
000003e0  53 6e 64 e9 ac 34 53 b6  85 57 4b 8e f8 9b 78 91  |Snd..4S..WK...x.| key16
000003f0  5e a2 e9 83 2d a2 4a 14  ce 8c 6f 9c 31 b1 4f 3f  |^...-.J...o.1.O?| key17
00000400  f0 73 f2 d8 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |.s..............| key18
00000410  a0 79 91 e9 66 93 d8 d0  cc 57 c7 da c5 7d df 40  |.y..f....W...}.@| key19
00000420  78 d3 5a 96 be 8d 67 10  44 0b 4a 2d 8e cc a0 61  |x.Z...g.D.J-...a| key20
00000430  28 18 04 78 21 95 6b 69  2c d1 35 1f 69 a3 52 5f  |(..x!.ki,.5.i.R_| key21
00000440  97 1c 93 d8 99 52 2a 91  e4 3a b5 10 26 14 df 44  |.....R*..:..&..D| key22

SIGNATURE INFO:
00000450  00 00 00 01 00 00 00 30  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |.......0........| unknown=1 - signature_size=0x30 - unknown=0
00000460  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................| unknown=0 - unknown=0
00000470  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 7b  00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00  |.......{........| unknown=7b - unknown=0x100 - unknown=0

SIGNATURE:
00000480  00 c6 39 a4 4e b4 3f d9  b5 dd 06 f2 e3 b0 88 5e  |..9.N.?........^| R[21]
00000490  5d 7a d9 ee a5 00 5f 33  6a ff c2 8b 70 eb cf 50  |]z...._3j...p..P| R (5 bytes) - S[21]
000004a0  2e b8 07 36 2e db 37 5b  db f4 00 00 00 00 00 00  |...6..7[........| S (10 bytes) - padding
000004b0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................| padding
000004c0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................| padding
000004d0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................| padding
000004e0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................| padding
000004f0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................| padding


ENCRYPTED ELF HEADER?:
00000500  36 2a 61 73 99 41 75 19  cc a7 42 22 fb f4 b5 cc  |6*as.Au...B"....|
00000510  41 7a bf 27 c8 f6 c1 13  7c f3 d2 03 e9 67 35 09  |Az.'....|....g5.|
00000520  40 21 6b b8 81 9f 69 fa  7d 8a 1b 29 b1 8c 97 23  |@!k...i.}..)...#|
00000530  f9 ff e3 dc 3e 82 91 f9  78 28 f8 2b e4 b4 ee 69  |....>...x(.+...i|
[...]
000104c0  94 68 af d6 3f 1d 1d ce  fa b8 75 92 e8 c2 54 da  |.h..?.....u...T.|
000104d0  5a 32 f2 44 c1 f8 72 66  5f 8f ac ae 1e d1 43 8d  |Z2.D..rf_.....C.|
000104e0  f6 5b bb 24 91 f7 9c 1b  f5 6b cc ca 89 93 8c c4  |.[.$.....k......|
000104f0  bc b4 de ed 70 36 4d 22  f4 3f 71 27 03 e1 28 b4  |....p6M".?q'..(.|

PROGRAM SECTION 0:
00010500  78 9c ec bd 0f 7c 54 d5  9d 37 fc bb 93 49 32 01  |x....|T..7...I2.|
00010510  5c 43 3b d6 28 ff 06 c1  32 01 6a 62 45 3b 31 01  |\C;.(...2.jbE;1.|
00010520  26 82 f5 42 60 37 56 2c  58 b5 9d 08 b6 a0 f6 f3  |&..B`7V,X.......|
00010530  a0 8b dd 8b 99 61 26 10  dd 50 e9 fb 84 aa db a0  |.....a&..P......|
00010540  01 87 0a 14 56 7d 16 1f  a9 a2 05 0c fe 61 a1 ea  |....V}.......a..|
[...]
0016edd0  3f 7a 48 af 45 ef 28 3a  05 98 10 3f e8 79 3a da  |?zH.E.(:...?.y:.|
0016ede0  48 d5 2c 75 e5 4d 70 57  a4 1e b5 ae 32 16 6e 57  |H.,u.MpW....2.nW|
0016edf0  5c 26 d6 4f c4 90 0b 9a  87 4f 85 43 68 76 ca 8b  |\&.O.....O.Chv..|
0016ee00  e0 0f fd 68 eb 4b de e0  2d 3f 4e 8d 02 ce a2 37  |...h.K..-?N....7|

PROGRAM SECTION 1:
0016ee10  78 9c ed 9d 09 5c 54 55  fb f8 ef b0 09 8a 0a ae  |x....\TU........|
0016ee20  b8 8f 3a 2a 29 0e 33 30  22 ee 93 6d 53 b9 a0 59  |..:*).30"..mS..Y|
0016ee30  e1 92 82 82 82 2b 89 0b  9a cb a8 2d 96 a9 98 4b  |.....+.....-...K|
0016ee40  a6 65 94 96 64 6e f5 a6  99 2d 8e a9 89 b9 61 ae  |.e..dn...-....a.|
0016ee50  65 1a 5a 9a 5a 99 bb b8  ff 0f de ef 45 e6 32 17  |e.Z.Z.......E.2.|
0016ee60  06 93 de de ff af f9 38  3e f7 dc 7b ce 73 9e fd  |.......8>..{.s..|
[...]
00174710  e4 12 72 5f 3d 18 15 7b  9f fc 9d ea 2e 55 67 c0  |..r_=..{.....Ug.|
00174720  5a 73 60 83 ab 41 23 a0  ad c1 7c ba 3a 40 c9 63  |Zs`..A#...|.:@.c|
00174730  c0 f7 38 5e 58 42 f7 dc  77 74 4d 53 b3 0b 19 22  |..8^XB..wtMS..."|
00174740  f6 70 4d 22 d6 fc 11 51  9b 20 81 e7 81 09 cb 82  |.pM"...Q. ......|
00174750  f9 71 76 a4 3b 02 cd 10


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                                   00 00 00 1f 00 00 00 01  |................| name_idx=0x1f type=1=progbits
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                                   00 00 00 26 00 00 00 01  |...........&....| name_idx=0x26 type=1=progbits
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001748d0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   	       	     	    		       entries_size=0x00

                                   00 00 00 2c 00 00 00 01  |...........,....| name_idx=0x2c type=1=progbits
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                                   00 00 00 31 00 00 00 01  |...........1....| name_idx=0x31 type=1=progbits
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00174940  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08  |................| link=0 - info=0 - addr_align=0x08
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                                   00 00 00 36 00 00 00 01  |...........6....| name_idx=0x36 type=1=progbits
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00174a18


[edit] Sign executables for 3.73+

[21:00:58]	<Mathieulh>	selfs are a mess to generate properly because a lot of values need to be calculated from the original elf file
[21:01:11]	<Mathieulh>	the problem is right now all the public tools use hardcoded values
[21:01:19]	<Mathieulh>	that are grabbed from various self files
[21:01:21]	<Mathieulh>	but are not calculated
[21:01:34]	<Mathieulh>	well that's one of the many problems actually
[21:01:35]	<jevin> 	Mathieulh, things other than elf offsets?
[21:01:40]	<Mathieulh>	yah
[21:02:03]	<Mathieulh>	sony also did some fancy things with the compression self format
[21:02:12]	<Mathieulh>	where values are off by a certain offset etc etc
[21:02:38]	<Mathieulh>	if you want to make a proper self tool
[21:02:44]	<Mathieulh>	you first need to reverse make_fself
[21:03:06]	<jevin> 	not too hard with hexrays *cough*
[21:03:09]	<Mathieulh>	that's the initial step
[21:03:15]	<Mathieulh>	yeah it's not that hard
[21:03:29]	<Mathieulh>	then you'll figure what a big fuck up the self format really is xD
[21:05:14]	<Mathieulh>	but yeah just my self.cpp is 5 times larger than the entire source for geohot make_self/make_self_npdrm
[21:05:27]	<Mathieulh>	in terms of lines of code
[21:05:48]	<Mathieulh>	so his is missing shitloads of stuffs and only relies on hardcoded values
[21:06:06]	<jevin>	        entire headers copypasta'ed from existing selfs
[21:06:11]	<Mathieulh>	pretty much yah xD
[21:06:23]	<Mathieulh>	the ones on the tool I use are generated
[21:06:32]	<Mathieulh>	as in calculated and generated
[21:06:36]	<Mathieulh>	from the original elf
[21:06:52]	<Mathieulh>	btw unself is buggy too
[21:06:54]	<Mathieulh>	just so you know
[21:07:16]	<jevin>	        why havent you labeled the control flags? :)
[21:08:16]	<Mathieulh>	jevin I didn't feel the need to, I already know what they do anyway
[21:08:37]	<Mathieulh>	for example 0x40 is root rights, 0x20 is debugger rights and so on
[21:09:07]	<jevin>	        im guessing the self capabilities flags are offset 0x20 in the self header
[21:09:18]	<Mathieulh>	capabilities aren't in the header
[21:09:23]	<Mathieulh>	they are part of the metadata
[21:09:28]	<Mathieulh>	as in, they are encrypted and signed
[21:10:16]	<jevin>	        offset 0x10 in the section header?
[21:10:29]	<Mathieulh>	it's after the metadata keys
[21:10:33]	<jevin>	        no, they wouldnt be per section
[21:10:50]	<Mathieulh>	as in, right after them
[21:11:09]	<jevin>	        i see. so unself doesnt have enough fields in the metadata header
[21:11:35]	<jevin>	        i really should color in the hex values that are mapped to structures in unself vs ones that arent
[21:11:42]	<jevin>	        seems like it is missing a lot
[21:11:49]	<Mathieulh>	everything public is missing tons
[21:12:15]	<Mathieulh>	capabilities are optional mind you
[21:12:35]	<jevin>	        are they restrictive or permissive?
[21:13:11]	<Mathieulh>	restrictive
[21:13:16]	<Mathieulh>	(for most)
[21:42:15]	<jevin>	        Mathieulh, you said that the geohot npdrm keypair is blacklisted in 3.56
[21:42:30]	<jevin>	        i couldnt find the decrypted or encrypted metadata keypair in 3.56 files
[21:42:47]	<jevin>	        where does the blacklisting occur? is it a hash that is blacklisted?
[21:43:08]	<jevin> 	its interesting to me because we can make our own keypairs now with juan nadie's work
[21:48:45]	<Mathieulh>	<jevin> Mathieulh, you said that the geohot npdrm keypair is blacklisted in 3.56 <== not only that
[21:49:03]	<Mathieulh>	geohot stuff doesn't generate some of the npdrm specific values
[21:49:08]	<Mathieulh>	those were not checked in 3.55
[21:49:13]	<Mathieulh>	but they are checked in 3.56 now
[21:49:55]	<jevin>	        Mathieulh, gotcha
[21:50:09]	<jevin>	        is his keypair actually blacklisted somewhere though?
[21:50:10]	<Mathieulh>	there is no whitelist for npdrm
[21:50:22]	<Mathieulh>	so it's actually possible to generate valid npdrm self for 3.56+
[21:50:42]	<jevin>	        is it a check in appldr?
[21:50:43]	<Mathieulh>	that tool I made a screenshot of actually does that
[21:51:02]	<Mathieulh>	jevin yeah, it's enforced by lv1 though
[21:51:16]	<jevin>	        a hash comparison?
[21:51:27]	<Mathieulh>	yeah it's a hash
[21:51:30]	<Mathieulh>	but I won't say more
[21:51:35]	<jevin>	        ok :)
[21:51:55]	<Mathieulh>	everything you need is in the 3.56 fw :P
[21:52:16]	<jevin>	        rgr, i will poke around later
[21:52:34]	<jevin>	        the checks are unmodified in 3.60+?
[21:52:43]	<jevin>	        + new keys of course
[21:52:51]	<Mathieulh>	same checks
[21:54:53]	<Mathieulh>	jevin you won't get around crafting valid 3.56+ npdrm selfs without a proper makeself tool though
[21:57:18]	<jevin>	        would SCE make npdrm selfs work if actually signed?
[21:57:25]	<jevin>	        + crypted