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*A PS3 arcade displaying an error screen when booting (is trying to find a firmware update) the error makes appear the XMB and can be seen how "autoboots" an installed game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ss-MHvWDCk
*A PS3 arcade displaying an error screen when booting (is trying to find a firmware update) the error makes appear the XMB and can be seen how "autoboots" an installed game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ss-MHvWDCk


== 357C (GECR-1500?) [[VER-00x|VER-001]]? ==
== 357C (GECR-2500) [[JTP-00x|JTP-001]] ==
The Namco System 357C is the exact same thing as the 369, although it has no USB hub type interface,only a single USB cable. Everything else remains the same<br>
This system is also known as the 359 but finding one with that sticker is pretty rare. This system was released a year before the 369 and was mainly used for the Gundam and Dragon Ball Z games
 
<Gallery>
File:Namco_System_357C_GECR-2500_JTP-001.jpeg|Namco System 357C '''GECR-2500''' sticker
File:Namco_System_357C_Back.jpg|Namco System 357C, back view
File:Namco_System_357C_Rack_assy_open.jpg|Namco System 357C, rack assy open
File:JTP-001_Arcade_Side-A.jpeg|Namco System 357C. Motherboard JTP-001 Side-A
File:JTP-001_Arcade_Side-B.jpeg|Namco System 357C. Motherboard JTP-001 Side-B
</Gallery>


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6O3bJ8TFtc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6O3bJ8TFtc


* Note the motherboard is based on PS3 slim, the position of the connectors matches with [[DYN-00x]] (CECH-20xx), and [[SUR-00x]] (CECH-21xx) or later [[JTP-00x|JTP-001]]/[[JSD-00x|JSD-001]]
* Note the motherboard is based on PS3 slim, the position of the connectors matches with [[DYN-00x]] (CECH-20xx), and [[SUR-00x]] (CECH-21xx) or later [[JTP-00x|JTP-001]]
* Note the 3 USB connectors (not present in PS3 slim models), this means there is a "USB HUB" inside the case (<s>or 1 of the USB connectors is only a "dummy" to feed power to USB devices with no data communication</s>), either in a separated board or integrated in one of the JVS board or IO board  ''It has been confirmed that there is indeed a USB Hub inside of the System 369 hardware''
* Note the 3 USB connectors (not present in PS3 slim models), this means there is a "USB HUB" inside the case (<s>or 1 of the USB connectors is only a "dummy" to feed power to USB devices with no data communication</s>), either in a separated board or integrated in one of the JVS board or IO board  ''It has been confirmed that there is indeed a USB Hub inside of the System 369 hardware''


== 369 (GECR-2500) [[JTP-00x|JTP-001]]/[[JSD-00x|JSD-001]] ==
== 369 (GECR-2500 CU1) [[JTP-00x|JTP-001]] ==
 
== 369 (GECR-2500CU1) [[JTP-00x|JTP-001]]/[[JSD-00x|JSD-001]]  ==
<Gallery>
<Gallery>
File:System_369_Exterior.JPG|System 369 Exterior View
File:System_369_Exterior.JPG|System 369 Exterior View
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*JVS board (at bottom, from left to right)
*JVS board (at bottom, from left to right)
**USB (JV I/O JAMMA) interface
**USB (JV I/O JAMMA) interface
**DC IN ?? <!--// seems to be 3.3v in the JVS standard, but is stated as 12v in some webs //-->
**DC IN +5v (to power Namco board,only used for the 357A and 357B)
**VGA (video out)
**VGA (video out)
**RCA white (left speaker out)
**RCA white (left speaker out)

Revision as of 07:41, 12 March 2022

Namco System - Common

  • Namco Tekken 6 live monitor

    Namco Tekken 6 live monitor

  • Namco Tekken 6 standard

    Namco Tekken 6 standard

  • Namco Tekken 6 advertisement Left: Standard version Right: Live Monitor version

    Namco Tekken 6 advertisement
    Left: Standard version
    Right: Live Monitor version

  • Namco System 357

    Namco System 357

  • XMB messages related with arcade firmware updates inside dev_flash/vsh/resource/software_update_plugin.rco/English.xml
<Text name="msg_update_copying_donot_turn_off_arcade">Copying update data to the system storage... Do not turn off the system.</Text>
<Text name="msg_eject_media_auto_restart_arcade">Remove the storage media that contains update data. By removing the storage media, the system will automatically restart.</Text>

Game Dongles and HDDs List

The games comes preinstalled in the HDD and paired to a dongle. Games can contain firmware updates, and game updates. Both installed automatically when booting the game for first time.

The game update source: /dev_hdd0/game/SCEEXE000/ARCDIR/INSTALL0.PKG

The firmware update path (source): /dev_hdd0/game/SCEEXE000/ARCDIR/PS3UPDAT.PUP

Namco Game Namco System compatibility Firmware Website Notes
Year English Name
Japanese Name		 HDD Ref. Dongle Ref. 357 A
S357-07J		 357 B
S357B-08J		 357 C
S357C-10J
S357C-11E		 369
S369C-11J
S369C-11E
2007 Tekken 6
鉄拳６		 TE6100-1-NA-HDD0-A TE61 Yes Yes Yes ? 2.51 [Website]
Tekken 6 (Live Monitor)
鉄拳６ライブモニター用		 TE6100-1-LM-HDD0-A TE6L Yes Yes Yes ? 2.51 [Website]
2008 Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion
鉄拳6 BLOODLINE REBELLION		 T6B100-1-NA-HDD0-A or
T6B100-2-NA-HDD0-A02		 T6B1 or
T6B2		 Yes Yes Yes ? 2.51 [Website] There are at least 2 versions of this game
Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion (Live Monitor)
鉄拳6 BLOODLINE REBELLION ライブモニター用		 T6B100-1-LM-HDD0-A T6BL Yes Yes Yes ? 2.51 [Website]
Razing Storm RST100-2-NA-MPR0-A RST1 ? Yes Yes Yes ? 2.51 [Website] [Service Manual.pdf]
2010 Deadstorm Pirates DSP100-2-NA-MPR0-BXX DSP1 ? ? ? Yes ? ? [Website] [Service Manual.pdf]
Kidou Senshi Gundam: Extreme Vs. ? ? ? ? Yes ? 3.60 [Website]
2011 Dragon Ball Zenkai Battle Royal ? ? ? ? Yes ? ? [Website]
Taiko No Tatsujin ? ? ? ? Yes ? ? [Website]
Tekken Tag Tournament 2 ? ? ? ? ? Yes 3.60 [Website]
2012 Kidou Senshi Gundam: Extreme Vs. Full Boost GEX100-1-NA-HDD0-A ? GEX1 ? ? ? Yes ? 4.20 [Website]
Kidou Senshi Gundam: Extreme Vs. Full Boost (Live Monitor) GEX100-1-LM-HDD0-A GEX1L ? ? ? Yes ? 4.20 [Website] The game has five additional dongles
Taiko No Tatsujin KATSU-DON ST2100-1-NA-HDD0-A21 ? ? ? Yes ? ? [Website]
Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited TG2100-1-NA-HDD0-F17 TG21 & DTT2G ? ? ? Yes 3.60 [Website] The game has an additional dongle
Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited (Live Monitor) TG2100-1-LM-HDD0-F17 ? TG21L & DTT2GL ? ? ? ? Yes 3.60 [Website]
2013 Taiko No Tatsujin SORAIRO ST3100-1-NA-HDD0-B08 ? ? ? Yes ? ? [Website]
Taiko No Tatsujin MOMOIRO ST4100-1-NA-HDD0-K03 ? ? ? Yes ? ? [Website]
2014 Taiko No Tatsujin KIMIDORI ST5100-1-NA-HDD0-A12 ? ? ? Yes ? ? [Website]
2015 Taiko No Tatsujin MURASAKI ST6100-1-NA-HDD0-A11 ? ? ? Yes ? ? [Website]
2017 Taiko No Tatsujin YELLOW ST9100-1-NA-HDD0-J09 ? ? ? Yes ? ? [Website]
Rows marked in gray are "live monitor" versions, not playables, are "demo" machines that displays "real live gameplay" from other machines connected to a network. [video]
  • Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion v2 game update

    Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion v2 game update

  • Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion (version A67)

    Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion
    (version A67)

  • Tekken 6 dongle (TE61)

    Tekken 6 dongle
    (TE61)

  • Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion dongle (T6B1)

    Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion dongle
    (T6B1)

  • Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion v2 dongle (T6B2)

    Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion v2 dongle
    (T6B2)

  • Kidou Senshi Gundam Extreme Vs. Full Boost Live Monitor HDD/Dongles (GEX100-1-LM-HDD0-A)

    Kidou Senshi Gundam Extreme Vs. Full Boost Live Monitor HDD/Dongles
    (GEX100-1-LM-HDD0-A)

  • Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited dongles (TG21 & DTT2G)

    Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited dongles
    (TG21 & DTT2G)

ARC USB stick, with multipartitions and serial datasheet: [1] (http://www.hsc-us.com/Embedded/udrw/ / http://www.hscjpn.co.jp/udrw/develop_about.php)

HDD Key

The harddrive is decrypted using a static key inside lv1ldr when Product Code = 0xA0  ARC 

lv1/lv1ldr should be same as on retailmodels, but for the nittpickers:

Bana Passport

Bana Passport main site

  • Bana Passport - Transfer/Copy Procedure

    Bana Passport - Transfer/Copy Procedure

Namco System 357

357A (GECR-1100) COK-002

System357A GECR-1100 (Tekken 6)

  • System357A - CELL

    System357A - CELL

  • System357A - RSX

    System357A - RSX

  • System357A - SouthBridge

    System357A - SouthBridge

  • System357A - Motherboard Detail pic

    System357A - Motherboard Detail pic

  • System357A - Motherboard Overview

    System357A - Motherboard Overview

  • System357A - Motherboard Overview2

    System357A - Motherboard Overview2

  • System357A - white sticker

    System357A - white sticker

  • System357A - behind

    System357A - behind

  • System357A - behind2

    System357A - behind2

  • System357A - top

    System357A - top

  • System357A - top uncovered

    System357A - top uncovered

  • System357A - side

    System357A - side

  • System357A - external

    System357A - external

357B (GECR-1500) VER-001

System 357B (GECR-1500) inside picures :

  • Namco System 357B - TopBack

    Namco System 357B - TopBack

  • System357b - RSX

    System357b - RSX

  • System357b - Bottom

    System357b - Bottom

  • System357b - Top

    System357b - Top

  • System357b - Tray

    System357b - Tray

  • Arcade - Motherboard Overview

    Arcade - Motherboard Overview

  • Arcade - Motherboard Detail pic1

    Arcade - Motherboard Detail pic1

  • Arcade - Motherboard Detail pic2

    Arcade - Motherboard Detail pic2

  • Arcade - Motherboard Detail pic3

    Arcade - Motherboard Detail pic3

  • Namco System357b/c connection diagram

    Namco System357b/c connection diagram

357C (GECR-2500) JTP-001

The Namco System 357C is the exact same thing as the 369, although it has no USB hub type interface,only a single USB cable. Everything else remains the same
This system is also known as the 359 but finding one with that sticker is pretty rare. This system was released a year before the 369 and was mainly used for the Gundam and Dragon Ball Z games

  • Namco System 357C GECR-2500 sticker

    Namco System 357C GECR-2500 sticker

  • Namco System 357C, back view

    Namco System 357C, back view

  • Namco System 357C, rack assy open

    Namco System 357C, rack assy open

  • Namco System 357C. Motherboard JTP-001 Side-A

    Namco System 357C. Motherboard JTP-001 Side-A

  • Namco System 357C. Motherboard JTP-001 Side-B

    Namco System 357C. Motherboard JTP-001 Side-B


Namco System 369

  • Namco System 369 - back

    Namco System 369 - back

  • Namco System 369 - Accessories

    Namco System 369 - Accessories

  • Namco System 369 - Tekken Tag 2

    Namco System 369 - Tekken Tag 2

source for above: https://www.rinkya.com/en/auction-k159839038

  • System 36911J - Tekken Tag 2 - Cabinet

    System 36911J - Tekken Tag 2 - Cabinet

  • System 36911J - overview

    System 36911J - overview

  • System 36911J - topback

    System 36911J - topback

  • System 36911J - dongles

    System 36911J - dongles

  • System 36911J - top

    System 36911J - top

  • System_36911J - top_sticker bottomright

    System_36911J - top_sticker bottomright

  • System 36911J - top sticker topright

    System 36911J - top sticker topright

  • System 36911J - back

    System 36911J - back

source for above: http://akihabaraarcade.blogspot.nl/2013/01/tekken-tag-tournament-2-unlimited.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6O3bJ8TFtc

  • Note the motherboard is based on PS3 slim, the position of the connectors matches with DYN-00x (CECH-20xx), and SUR-00x (CECH-21xx) or later JTP-001
  • Note the 3 USB connectors (not present in PS3 slim models), this means there is a "USB HUB" inside the case (or 1 of the USB connectors is only a "dummy" to feed power to USB devices with no data communication), either in a separated board or integrated in one of the JVS board or IO board It has been confirmed that there is indeed a USB Hub inside of the System 369 hardware

369 (GECR-2500 CU1) JTP-001

  • System 369 Exterior View

    System 369 Exterior View

  • System 369 Interior Overall Top

    System 369 Interior Overall Top

  • System 369 Interior Overall Bottom

    System 369 Interior Overall Bottom

  • System 369. 4 ports USB Hub (3 input ports at back + JVS Board input)

    System 369. 4 ports USB Hub (3 input ports at back + JVS Board input)

  • System 369 Motherboard USB Header (hub is connected to port0, and port1 is not used)

    System 369 Motherboard USB Header (hub is connected to port0, and port1 is not used)

  • Secondary Power Supply for: Additional fan, USB hub, and JVS Board

    Secondary Power Supply for: Additional fan, USB hub, and JVS Board

  • System 369 JVS Board (CN1 = power, CN2 = USB out)

    System 369 JVS Board (CN1 = power, CN2 = USB out)

  • System 369 Motherboard Top

    System 369 Motherboard Top

  • System 369 Motherboard Top 2 (Note missing BDROM drive and Wireless circuitry)

    System 369 Motherboard Top 2 (Note missing BDROM drive and Wireless circuitry)

  • System 369 Motherboard Serial (GECR-2500)

    System 369 Motherboard Serial (GECR-2500)

  • System 369 Motherboard Bottom

    System 369 Motherboard Bottom

  • System 369 Motherboard Bottom 2 (JTP-001)

    System 369 Motherboard Bottom 2 (JTP-001)

  • System 369 Motherboard Bottom 3

    System 369 Motherboard Bottom 3

source for above: Personal collection of User:Rkrenicki

Namco System 357 JVS and I/O boards

I/O board is connected to JVS board, the inputs of the I/O board (buttons, stick, credit slot) are sent to the JVS board and then to the PS3 board by a USB cable. Video signal from "PS3 board" to "JVS board" is sent with a "AV MultiOUT" cable, and then to the cabinet display using a VGA connector

  • Boards connectors/placement

    Boards connectors/placement

  • "Peripherals", "I/O board" and "JVS Board" Block Diagram

    "Peripherals", "I/O board" and "JVS Board" Block Diagram

  • Namco JVS boards Main Menu

    Namco JVS boards Main Menu

JVS, or Jamma Video Standard (sometimes even called JAMMA 2), is an updated version of JAMMA created in the late 90’s by an special sub-committee consisting of the major arcade game manufacturers. http://www.jamma.or.jp/

JVS specifies the type of connectors to use for video (HD-15, commonly known as a VGA), audio (RCA) and power (JST VL), in addition to the communications protocol between the game board and the I/O board. In contrast to (old) JAMMA, JVS concentrates I/O functions in a separate board.

See: http://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/JVS and http://jvspac.kirurg.org/

Namco System357 boards connectors:

  • I/O board (at top, from left to right)
    • 1 connector (in white) with 24 pins
    • 8 dipswitches (in black/red) -> (2nd dip is for enabling 31KHz)
    • 1 connector (in white) with 10 pins
  • JVS board (at bottom, from left to right)
    • USB (JV I/O JAMMA) interface
    • DC IN +5v (to power Namco board,only used for the 357A and 357B)
    • VGA (video out)
    • RCA white (left speaker out)
    • RCA red (right speaker out)
  • Note the references to system357 in "Deadstorm Pirates" and "Razing Storm" manuals.pdf, and the pictures of the connectors that can help to identify motherboards/models
    • Picture in razing storm manual.pdf - (section 5.5 "inserting the dongle")... the connectors matches with a system357b (VER001 motherboard)... but there is no JVS and I/O boards
    • It seems the newer system357 models (system357c ?) doesnt have/use a JVS and I/O boards, has been replaced by a "USB I/O PCB" (in page 50 and 94 in razing storm manual and the photo of "357b/c connection diagram" above), with a hardware identifyer "US1001" and/or "USIO01"
  • Deadstorm Pirates
HDD CHECK
MEDIA SYSTEM357 HDD
----------------------
I/O PCB CHECK
I/O PCB : Connect OK
NBGI.;USIO01;VerX.XX;JPN,Mulitipurpose with PPG
----------------------
OTHERS
ROM DSP100-2-NA-MPR0-BXX
CLOCK 01/01/2010 FRI 08:11:24
S/N 76C0D0-9XXXXX
SYSTEM SW Ver. 250.XXX
CABINET TYPE SD
LANGUAGE ENG
ATTRACT CUT OFF
RATING OFF
HDD CHECK
CLOCK SETTING
BACKUP MEMORY INITIALIZE
  • Razing Storm
DRIVE CHECK
MEDIA  SYSTEM357 HD
----------------------
I/O TEST
I/O PCB : CONNECT OK
BNGI. : US1001 : Ver 1.00 : JPN,Multipurpose with PPG
----------------------
OTHERS
ROM  RST100-2-NA-MPR0-A
CLOCK  09/29/2008 (MON) 22 : 12 : 44
S/N  000000-123456
LANGUAGE  ENG
VOICE  ENG
HD CHECK
BACKUP MEMORY INITIALIZE

JVS to JAMMA converters

Used to connect JVS devices to JAMMA cabinets (older), home made cabinets, or for service/repair purposes. This converters are not present in Namco cabinets but are listed here as usefull tools or related hardware

Capcom I/O JAMMA converter
Capcom IO JAMMA converter.jpg
  1. Power output (supplies power to the JVS board)
  2. VGA in (video, standard or high resolution, no medium resolution)
  3. USB in (for controls)
  4. RCA in (audio)
  5. Volume adjustment
  6. Capcom kick harness (unlike Sega IOs, Capcom IO does not use "unmapped" JAMMA pins for extra buttons, you must use this connector instead. Also, you connect 3P and 4P controls here)
  7. JAMMA (connect your cabinet here)

http://www.solvalou.com/arcade_naomicapcom.php and http://forum.arcadeotaku.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=22062

  • Namco System 357A - connected to a "Capcom I/O JAMMA converter"

    Namco System 357A - connected to a "Capcom I/O JAMMA converter"

  • Namco System 357A - overview

    Namco System 357A - overview

  • Namco System 357A - topback

    Namco System 357A - topback

  • Namco System 357A - usbports

    Namco System 357A - usbports

  • Namco System 357A - io ports

    Namco System 357A - io ports

  • Namco System 357A - DC_IN input

    Namco System 357A - DC_IN input

  • JAMMA Functional Diagram

    JAMMA Functional Diagram

  • Sega ?? (it seems there are at least 2 sega "JVS to JAMMA coverters" compatibles, for "Sega Naomi" and "Sega Lindbergh")



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