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I think the '''GB-000''' indicates that the flash area is empty, in other words, the syscon manufacturer shipped the chips to sony with the flash area filled either with 0's or 1's and it was sony who wrote the flash (so i agree is a placeholder, but also seems to indicate that it was "empty" when it was sent to sony). In '''GB-004''' the syscon manufacturer wrote something in the flash area and sent the syscons "programmed" to sony (and sony was free to overwrite the flash). And the others starting with '''GB-10x''', '''GB-20x''', '''GB-30x''' follows the same name conventions used later in retails, you know... 101, 102, 103 ---> 201, 202, 203 ---> 301, 302, 303 etc...--[[User:Sandungas|Sandungas]] ([[User talk:Sandungas|talk]]) 22:33, 13 April 2021 (UTC) | I think the '''GB-000''' indicates that the flash area is empty, in other words, the syscon manufacturer shipped the chips to sony with the flash area filled either with 0's or 1's and it was sony who wrote the flash (so i agree is a placeholder, but also seems to indicate that it was "empty" when it was sent to sony). In '''GB-004''' the syscon manufacturer wrote something in the flash area and sent the syscons "programmed" to sony (and sony was free to overwrite the flash). And the others starting with '''GB-10x''', '''GB-20x''', '''GB-30x''' follows the same name conventions used later in retails, you know... 101, 102, 103 ---> 201, 202, 203 ---> 301, 302, 303 etc...--[[User:Sandungas|Sandungas]] ([[User talk:Sandungas|talk]]) 22:33, 13 April 2021 (UTC) | ||
The CXR flash chips are never completly empty since you can't overwrite the bootloader/backup bank (seems to be always v0.4.5_b4, no "SoftID"). Also they're made by Sony. | |||
If the chip is meant for development they'll put XXX instad of the 000 or 301 but we've never seen one because there needs to be a firmware on the syscon to test the PS3 at the factory, so these are only for internal use. | |||
My point is just that you can't use the GB-... label to deduce the version of the firmware which is stored on the chip. | |||
[[User:M4j0r|M4j0r]] ([[User talk:M4j0r|talk]]) 10:31, 14 April 2021 (UTC) | |||
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CXR713F120A STANDBY
Other Chips
Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. CXR713F120A ©&M2005SCEI GB-004 ES1 47H
There are (at least) 3 variants of this chip (note the suffixes "GB" (seems to be related with the hardware packaging) and "101" (seems to be the syscon ROM revision) was used later in retail syscon models but in different order. See Syscon_Hardware#Non_retail
- CXR713F120A GB-000 (unknown SoftID) reported for CEB-2040/MPU-501 ...literally as "CXR713F120GB-000" but i guess that was a typo (it was missing the "A" and a space)
- CXR713F120A GB-004 (unknown SoftID) reported above
- CXR713F120A GB-101 (for SoftID 03FB) used in DECR1000(A/J)
It's very tricky to assign a soft id to the flash syscons, since you can just change the firmware but the label won't change (and Sony reuses these chips).
- CEB-203x GB-000 (000 or 001 is just a placeholder, sometimes these chips ship with a very late firmwares)
- DECR-1000 GB-101 0F3B (also 06DA, 073E, 07FF, 086C, 08F1, 0955, 0AF4, 0B48, 0B74, 0B9D, 0C23, 0D79, 0E4E)
- DEH-H1000A(S)-E GB-201 0B67 (was flashed to 0B8E on some later revisions, no matching label - DEH-H1001-D also reports 0B67)
- CBEH-1004-G GB-004 0B8E (was reused from a CEB prototype console, no matching label)
- unknown GB-202 0C16 (for COK-002 based prototypes)
I think the GB-000 indicates that the flash area is empty, in other words, the syscon manufacturer shipped the chips to sony with the flash area filled either with 0's or 1's and it was sony who wrote the flash (so i agree is a placeholder, but also seems to indicate that it was "empty" when it was sent to sony). In GB-004 the syscon manufacturer wrote something in the flash area and sent the syscons "programmed" to sony (and sony was free to overwrite the flash). And the others starting with GB-10x, GB-20x, GB-30x follows the same name conventions used later in retails, you know... 101, 102, 103 ---> 201, 202, 203 ---> 301, 302, 303 etc...--Sandungas (talk) 22:33, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
The CXR flash chips are never completly empty since you can't overwrite the bootloader/backup bank (seems to be always v0.4.5_b4, no "SoftID"). Also they're made by Sony.
If the chip is meant for development they'll put XXX instad of the 000 or 301 but we've never seen one because there needs to be a firmware on the syscon to test the PS3 at the factory, so these are only for internal use.
My point is just that you can't use the GB-... label to deduce the version of the firmware which is stored on the chip.
M4j0r (talk) 10:31, 14 April 2021 (UTC)