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== PowerON/off HDMI/CEC, WiFi, Bluetooth, GbLAN, buttons etc ==
== Notes ==
There is no seperate communication processor on the PS3. Powering is handled by syscon.
*The SoftID (Syscon firmware build id) of retail chips is a 1:1 mapping to the syscon model. So each syscon model does have a unique SoftID.
*Every syscon within a series (CXR, SW, SW2, SW3) is backwards compatible, e.g. every CXR Syscon works on the COK-001, but only 202GB and newer on a COK-002.
*The SW and the SW2 are not interchangable (because of the CEC handling which uses hardcoded HDMI stuff).
*The actual platform configuration which defines the board on the which Syscon resides is stored in the EEPROM (CXR) or Flash data section (SW), it can be mapped to the platform id.
*In theory even the SW(1) chips work on Mullion boards if you adapt them.


*Power and eject buttons/switchs are connected with syscon (indirectly), there is no protocol involved, the syscon pins related with this buttons has 2 posible states: 3.3v (when button is not pressed)... or 0v (when button is pressed)
== Prototype sherwoods ==
 
The sherwood table already have a row for D79F0073, should we add a couple more rows for D79F0086 and D79F0123 ?
== Multipage Correction ==
<TizzyT> eussnl my syscon is CXR714120-301GB its different form what the wiki says
CECHH / DIA-001
 
=== Package ===
http://pastie.org/private/tkcfjwit37huzyzoie7z5g BGA
 
ball count: 4x16 + 8x14 + 2x12 = 64+112+24 = 200 pads
 
new QF package is 26 * 38 = 128 pins
 
=== Clocks ===
SysCon clocks:
T4 XTAL / T5 EXTAL goes to [X4001] of 16.9344 MHz
C16 OSCIN / B16 OSCOUT goes to [X4002] of 32.768 kHz
http://oi52.tinypic.com/2s9ziw0.jpg
 
=== Backup Mode / Diag ===
BACKUP_MODE / DIAG_MODE pins on Gen 2 might be pins 110 and 111. They are pulled low.
Not completely sure, but looking at those pins in relation to what's around them seems like it could be those two.
 
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SEM-001 CECHG
Pink is N15 BACKUP_MODE
Blue is N16 DIAG_MODE
picture: http://psx-scene.com/forums/attachments/f149/26456d1300550098-brick-recovery-research-untitled-1.jpg
source: http://psx-scene.com/forums/780185-post344.html !unverified!
 
According to schematics, DIAG and BACKUP_MODE are are shown in the following picture for COK-001 and COK-002 Motherboards - http://goput.it/69k.jpg
These pins are tied to 3.3v so grounding them should enable each mode respectively.
!unverified! - DIAG mode has been verified to work - a seperate grounding of the P16 pin on the SYSCON
 
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=== SoftID ===
''Note: moved from seperate page, as there are already over 8 different syscon pages and the very same info is mention in depth on the SC firmware and SC hardware page (and in 150 wiki edits on the sysinfo page :/) we dont have a sperate page for every SELF flag either ;) (although there are >4 pages describing SELF :/)''
 
a SoftID is just a 0x4 code that tells you the hardware revision of the syscon.<br />
This info can be get through the [[More System Information]] method.<br />
You can find them also inside the SYS_CON_FIRMWARE_*********.pkg ([[Syscon_Firmware]]) at the offset '''0x28E''' (In this link you can found the list of the [[Syscon_Firmware#Known_Retail_syscon_update_packages| Syscon update packages]])<br />
every SoftID is associated with the ps3 mainboard. this means that you can know if a SC is compatible with your board without opening a PS3 ([[Syscon_Hardware#Serialnumbers_.40_SKU| Syscon Hardware]])
 
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! SoftID !! SC Generation !! notes
|-
! colspan="4" id="null"| Phats
|-
| 0B8E || 1 || -
|-
| 0C16 || 2 || COK-002
|-
| 0D52 || 3 || -
|-
| 0DBF || 4 || -
|-
| 0E69 || 5 || -
|-
| 0F29 || 6 || -
|-
| 0F38 || 7 || -
|-
| 065D || 8 || -
|-
! colspan="4" id="null"| Slims
|-
| 0832 || 9 || -
|-
| 08C2 || 10 || -
|-
| 0918 || 11 || -
|-
|}
 
=== Datasheet of SoC similar to syscon ===
* [http://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pdf/294279/SONY/CXR704060.html Sony CXR704060 datasheet.pdf] [http://mir.cr/LJOMNBFO mirror]
 
== COK-002 with 0DBF syscon ==
 
Information:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-UiaHRjhdt50/UesKSGuxdFI/AAAAAAAAGOU/0FV8Fazyl60/s800/TV2013072019053700.jpg
 
Min ver:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-iUOuidm6v3g/UexEQily6TI/AAAAAAAAGOk/zSfBMpYDRAM/s800/TV2013072117272000.jpg
 
Board type:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-K1sc66WzJxo/Ue1Mdr5mHeI/AAAAAAAAGO8/rnqlidQAVfY/s800/DSC01591.JPG
 
Syscon:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-OTxjx3qJV0M/Ue1L2itOfRI/AAAAAAAAGO0/Bv6zli_xQQg/s800/DSC01590.JPG
 
 
'''Talk'''
 
-This breaks lot of standards/pages/tables in wiki, can you add some notes please ?. E.g: the board came from official repair service, bought in a normal shop, or is a frankenstein made at home ?, it boots correctly and allows firmware updates ?. If it works normally i think this proves CXR713120-20xGB and CXR714120-30xGB shares the same pinout, but the fact that is using 0DBF SoftID is a bit shocking (maybe because is the minimal SoftID allowed by CXR714120-30xGB ?... [[Talk:More_System_Information | check SoftID examples in this table]]) --[[User:Sandungas|Sandungas]] 22:07, 24 July 2013 (MSK)
 
-The console is a CECHE01 MG (Metal Gear Solid 4 edition) and came with a 3rd generation BD drive (the first type with 2 lens). It had never been to SONY for service. It works normally, correctly and as you could see, has a minimum version which is compatible with the motherboard type. --l_oliveira
 
 
== SHA1 hashes stored at eeprom ==
 
from http://www.edepot.com/playstation3.html
 
"Files finally stored into the FLASH regions have their associated SHA-1 hash value stored in the SYSCON EEPROM for authentication and verification purposes. "
 
What happens if we change those hashes to something a 3.55 ofw would have? (assuming we were doing this experiment on a hackable console?)
 
== PS2 Mechacon vs PSP Syscon vs PS3 Syscon vs PSVita Syscon vs PS4 Syscon ==
 
{| class="wikitable"
! Production Start Date (<=) || PS2 Mechacon !! PSP Syscon !! PS3 Syscon !! PSVita Syscon !! PS4 Syscon !! Used IC/CPU Core
|-
| <abbr title="GH-001+">10/1999</abbr> || CXP101064 || - || - || - || - || rowspan="2" | Sony SPC970 (100 pin)
|-
| <abbr title="GH-003+">01/2000</abbr> || CXP102064 || - || - || - || -
|-
| <abbr title="GH-015+">09/2000</abbr> || CXP103049 || - || - || - || - || Sony SPC??? (136 pin)
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
| colspan="7" |
|-
| <abbr title="TMU-001, TMU-002, TA-079, TA-081">08/2004</abbr> || - || BAR''xx'' || - || - || - || NEC <abbr title="D790019">D780032AY</abbr> (78K0/78003xA, 64 pin)
|-
| <abbr title="TA-082, TA-086">07/2005</abbr> || - || B30''x'' || - || - || - || NEC <abbr title="D79F0036">D78F0531</abbr> (78K0/KE2 V2.00, 64 pin)
|-
| <abbr title="TA-085, TA-088, TA-091, TA-094">07/2007</abbr> || - || B40''x'' / 40''xx'' || - || - || - || NEC <abbr title="D79F????">D78F0544</abbr> (78K0/KF2 V2.00, 84 pin)
|-
| <abbr title="TA-090, TA-092, TA-093, TA-095, TA-096, TA-097">07/2008</abbr> || - || 3''xxx'' || - || - || - || NEC <abbr title="D79F????">D78F0534</abbr> (78K0/KE2 V2.00, 64 pin)
|-
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
| colspan="7" |
|-
| <abbr title="GH-023+, XPD-001, XPD-005">03/2003</abbr> || CXR706080 || - || - || - || - || rowspan="3" | Sony SR11 (ARM7TDMI)<br>PS2 (''Dragon''): 164 pin<br>PS3 (''Donkey''): 200 pin
|-
| <abbr title="GH-032+">09/2004</abbr> || CXR716080 || - || CXR713120 || - || -
|-
| <abbr title="GH-061+">07/2007</abbr> || CXR726080 || - || CXR714120 || - || -
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
| colspan="7" |
|-
| 03/2008 || - || - || SW || - || - || NEC <abbr title="D79F0073">D78F11AA</abbr> (78K0R/KH3 V3.40, 128 pin)
|-
| 05/2009 || - || - || SW2 || - || - || NEC <abbr title="D79F0086">D78F11BB</abbr> (78K0R/KH3 V1.00, 128 pin)
|-
| <abbr title="IRT-001, IRT-002, IRS-002, IRS-1001, DOL-1001, DOL-1002">07/2010</abbr> || - || - || - || <abbr title="No official name">"SC"</abbr> || - || NEC <abbr title="No/Matching internal name">D79F0109</abbr> (<abbr title="Mix between 78K0R/KH3 and 78K0R/Kx3-L">78K0R/KH3-L</abbr> V1.00, 121 pin)
|-
| 06/2011 || - || - || SW3 || - || - || NEC <abbr title="D79F0123">D78F11CC</abbr> (78K0R/KG3 V1.00, 100 pin)
|-
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
| colspan="7" |
|-
| <abbr title="CVN-001, SAA-001, SAB-001">07/2013</abbr> || - || - ||- || - || C0L || Renesas R5F100PL (RL78/G13 V3.03, 100 pin)
|-
| <abbr title="USS-1001, USS-1002">08/2013</abbr> || - || - ||- || A0''xxx'' || - || Renesas R5F1ZCRK (RL78/G13 V3.03, 121 pin)
|-
| <abbr title="SAC-001, SAD-001, SAD-002, SAD-003, SAE-001, SAE-002, SAE-003, SAE-004, SAF-004, SAF-006, HAC-001, NVA-001, NVB-003, NVB-004, NVG-001, NVG-002">04/2015</abbr> || - || - ||- || - || C0L2 || Renesas R5F101LL (RL78/G13 V3.03, 64 pin)
|-
|}
 
* The SPC900 core was designed by Texas Instruments ([https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirakawa-katsunobu-55b09b2])
* ''CXP101064'', ''CXP102064'' are similar to CXP97 (''CXP971000'', ''CXP972032'', '''CXP973064''', ''CXP973F064''), the ''CXP103049'' matches no COTS because of its OCD support
** In-Circuit-Emulator: Mitek NICE-SPC970 ([http://www.hitechfacility.co.jp/details.php?id=E0001913]); Debug software: SVD970; Flash programmer: SFP-2
* A ''F'' inside the model name specifies that the IC contains flash memory.
** Mass-produced CXR/SW units don't have/use program flash memory for updates, instead an encrypted firmware patch is stored on the data-"EEPROM"
* CXR7 series uses Sony SR11 CPU (ARM7TDMI)
** Models with public datasheet: ''CXR702080'', ''CXR702F080'', ''CXR704060''
* Prototype PS3 Syscon's:
** [[CXR713F120A]] Syscon used on (early) pre-release prototypes, e.g. [[CEB-2030]], [[DECR-1000]], [[DEH-H1001-D]], [[DEH-H1000A-E]]
** [[DEH-FH1500J-A]] with [[VERTIGO-02]] board and SW series prototype ''D79F0073''
** [[CBEH-H2001]] with [[SUR-00x#SURTEES-03|SURTEES-03]] board and SW2 series prototype ''D79F0086''
** [[DEH-ML00AK-G]] with [[MPX-001 (Prototype)]] board and SW3 series prototype ''D79F0123''

Latest revision as of 19:25, 4 November 2021

Notes[edit source]

  • The SoftID (Syscon firmware build id) of retail chips is a 1:1 mapping to the syscon model. So each syscon model does have a unique SoftID.
  • Every syscon within a series (CXR, SW, SW2, SW3) is backwards compatible, e.g. every CXR Syscon works on the COK-001, but only 202GB and newer on a COK-002.
  • The SW and the SW2 are not interchangable (because of the CEC handling which uses hardcoded HDMI stuff).
  • The actual platform configuration which defines the board on the which Syscon resides is stored in the EEPROM (CXR) or Flash data section (SW), it can be mapped to the platform id.
  • In theory even the SW(1) chips work on Mullion boards if you adapt them.

Prototype sherwoods[edit source]

The sherwood table already have a row for D79F0073, should we add a couple more rows for D79F0086 and D79F0123 ?