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====CFW2OFW is not HAN only====
====CFW2OFW is not HAN only====
I noticed lot of people have a misunderstanding related with that wiki page. The CFW2OFW method existed way before HAN was published. Initially it was used in combination with the official hdd backup/restore utility + some other hacks/tools. With HAN is different (and i ignore the differences btw), but this is why some of the games that was reported as "playable" now doesnt seems to work in HAN. But usually that reports saing it was "playable" was correct (and now other wiki editors are overriting them with an "unplayable" in a bit egoistic way, or because they ignores what im explaining here). Incase of doubt you can make a search at the "page history" to see who was the user that wrote that "playable", by knowing his nick (incase he was registered) you can sometimes talk with him to ask him what he did, or if is an user with some reputation then you should think twice before "flipping" his report from the "playable" he wrote to an "unplayable" (that most probably is going to be wrong and is going to cause some chaos). You has been mantaining that CFW2OFW compatibility page (and you know this better than me) so please keep an eye at this kind of edits that are flipping a "playable" by an "unplayable" because most are a mistake
*I noticed lot of people have a misunderstanding related with that wiki page. The CFW2OFW method existed way before HAN was published. Initially it was used in combination with the official hdd backup/restore utility + some other hacks/tools. With HAN is different (and i ignore the differences btw), but this is why some of the games that was reported as "playable" now doesnt seems to work in HAN. But usually that reports saying it was "playable" was correct (and now other wiki editors are overriting them with an "unplayable" in a bit egoistic way, or because they ignores what im explaining here). Incase of doubt you can make a search at the [[CFW2OFW_Compatibility_List|page history]] (by clicking in the "diff" of the edits) to see who was the user that wrote that "playable", by knowing his nick (incase he was registered) you can sometimes talk with him to ask him what he did, or if is an user with some reputation then you should think twice before "flipping" his report from the "playable" he wrote to an "unplayable" (that most probably is going to be wrong and is going to cause some chaos). You has been mantaining that CFW2OFW compatibility page (and you know this better than me) so please keep an eye at this kind of edits that are flipping a "playable" by an "unplayable" because most are a mistake --[[User:Sandungas|Sandungas]] ([[User talk:Sandungas|talk]]) 10:41, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
** Thanks for bringing up that subject. I agree there's confusion among users tagging list entries as unplayable even if they're only used HAN or only CFW2OFW method so clarification from the related editor is needed if they've modified existing entries. --[[User:Sciaa|Sciaa]] ([[User talk:Sciaa|talk]]) 01:46, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
** SUGGESTION: I've realized some BD games that don't work in CFW2OFW/injection method (labeled 'no') works in HAN using no extra methods so to stop confusion which works on which method, I'm thinking of adding a table column labeled "WORKS WITH HAN?" beside the current "WORKING?" (column for CFW2OFW/injection) --[[User:Sciaa|Sciaa]] ([[User talk:Sciaa|talk]]) 01:46, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
***Sorry for replying a bit late, i was thinking in your suggestion and not sure because it could complicate it and initially one of the columnd should be completly empty, also because i have too many doubts at what works and what doesnt, but you made the change already and you are working with that page a lot so is ok, wiki is a colaborative project, for some details the admins (or other normal users that edited wiki a lot) could be strict in what to do, but other times we should not be strict and this is one time where we should not, so you decide :) --[[User:Sandungas|Sandungas]] ([[User talk:Sandungas|talk]]) 17:29, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
***I noticed you have used spans (rowspan or colspan) in the tables and "sortable", my personal experience with this combination is doesnt works well, and because i love to use colspans and rowspans a lot i use to start the tables in the simplest way posible, this reduces problems and gives the table the "default" style of wiki for consistency in between pages, i added an example below--[[User:Sandungas|Sandungas]] ([[User talk:Sandungas|talk]]) 17:29, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 
=== Template changes ===
Hi, just keep in case that the [[Template:No]] syntax isn't used for the [[CFW2OFW Compatibility List]] only. Therefore I reverted your edits. I guess you tried to use some kind of a "Abbreviations Text" for the Template, where the code to use such a Text is as follows:
<pre>
<abbr title="Insert the Explanation from the displayed Text here">Text which gets displayed normaly</abbr>
</pre>
==== Example ====
{| border="3" cellpadding="5" class="wikitable center mw-datatable" style="font-size:85%; text-align:left"
! style="width:30%"| TITLE !! style="width:10%" | TITLE ID !! style="width:5%" | WORKING? !! style="width:55%" | NOTES
|-
| Example Game || ABYZ00000 || style="background:#CC5555; color:#FFFFFF; text-align: center;" | <span style="background:#CC5555; color:#FFFFFF;" title="No"><abbr title="'NO' means = BD game is not compatible with CFW2OFW Helper or PS3GameConvert tools due to: NO DOWNLOADABLE GAME UPDATES">No</abbr></span> || Please mouse-over to the "No" to see the effect.
|}
 
==== Basic tables ====
{| class="wikitable"
|+Table name
! TITLE !! TITLE ID !! WORKING? !! NOTES
|-
| Example || FAKE12345 || Dunno || Note
|}
 
To reduce fonts (and the whole table as consequence)
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size:small;"
|+Table name
! TITLE !! TITLE ID !! WORKING? !! NOTES
|-
| Example || FAKE12345 || Dunno || Note
|}
 
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size:x-small;"
|+Table name
! TITLE !! TITLE ID !! WORKING? !! NOTES
|-
| Example || FAKE12345 || Dunno || Note
|}
 
When you center the table it takes the 100% width of the page
{| class="wikitable center" style="font-size:xx-small;"
|+Table name
! TITLE !! TITLE ID !! WORKING? !! NOTES
|-
| Example || FAKE12345 || Dunno || Note
|}
 
And by using width restrictions in one row, all other rows are aligned to it
{| class="wikitable center" style="font-size:xx-small;"
|+Table name
! style="width:30%"| TITLE !! style="width:10%" | TITLE ID !! style="width:5%" | WORKING? !! style="width:60%" | NOTES
|-
| Example || FAKE12345 || Dunno || Note
|}

Latest revision as of 19:52, 16 October 2018

My talk page index[edit source]

Some things here[edit source]

Stuff... ><(((º>

User feedback[edit source]

Here other users can share a talk with me, please make a sectiong for every problem, so i can delete them when i consider convenient/solved

CFW2OFW is not HAN only[edit source]

  • I noticed lot of people have a misunderstanding related with that wiki page. The CFW2OFW method existed way before HAN was published. Initially it was used in combination with the official hdd backup/restore utility + some other hacks/tools. With HAN is different (and i ignore the differences btw), but this is why some of the games that was reported as "playable" now doesnt seems to work in HAN. But usually that reports saying it was "playable" was correct (and now other wiki editors are overriting them with an "unplayable" in a bit egoistic way, or because they ignores what im explaining here). Incase of doubt you can make a search at the page history (by clicking in the "diff" of the edits) to see who was the user that wrote that "playable", by knowing his nick (incase he was registered) you can sometimes talk with him to ask him what he did, or if is an user with some reputation then you should think twice before "flipping" his report from the "playable" he wrote to an "unplayable" (that most probably is going to be wrong and is going to cause some chaos). You has been mantaining that CFW2OFW compatibility page (and you know this better than me) so please keep an eye at this kind of edits that are flipping a "playable" by an "unplayable" because most are a mistake --Sandungas (talk) 10:41, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
    • Thanks for bringing up that subject. I agree there's confusion among users tagging list entries as unplayable even if they're only used HAN or only CFW2OFW method so clarification from the related editor is needed if they've modified existing entries. --Sciaa (talk) 01:46, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
    • SUGGESTION: I've realized some BD games that don't work in CFW2OFW/injection method (labeled 'no') works in HAN using no extra methods so to stop confusion which works on which method, I'm thinking of adding a table column labeled "WORKS WITH HAN?" beside the current "WORKING?" (column for CFW2OFW/injection) --Sciaa (talk) 01:46, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
      • Sorry for replying a bit late, i was thinking in your suggestion and not sure because it could complicate it and initially one of the columnd should be completly empty, also because i have too many doubts at what works and what doesnt, but you made the change already and you are working with that page a lot so is ok, wiki is a colaborative project, for some details the admins (or other normal users that edited wiki a lot) could be strict in what to do, but other times we should not be strict and this is one time where we should not, so you decide :) --Sandungas (talk) 17:29, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
      • I noticed you have used spans (rowspan or colspan) in the tables and "sortable", my personal experience with this combination is doesnt works well, and because i love to use colspans and rowspans a lot i use to start the tables in the simplest way posible, this reduces problems and gives the table the "default" style of wiki for consistency in between pages, i added an example below--Sandungas (talk) 17:29, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Template changes[edit source]

Hi, just keep in case that the Template:No syntax isn't used for the CFW2OFW Compatibility List only. Therefore I reverted your edits. I guess you tried to use some kind of a "Abbreviations Text" for the Template, where the code to use such a Text is as follows: 

<abbr title="Insert the Explanation from the displayed Text here">Text which gets displayed normaly</abbr>

Example[edit source]

TITLE TITLE ID WORKING? NOTES
Example Game ABYZ00000 No Please mouse-over to the "No" to see the effect.

Basic tables[edit source]

Table name
TITLE TITLE ID WORKING? NOTES
Example FAKE12345 Dunno Note

To reduce fonts (and the whole table as consequence)

Table name
TITLE TITLE ID WORKING? NOTES
Example FAKE12345 Dunno Note
Table name
TITLE TITLE ID WORKING? NOTES
Example FAKE12345 Dunno Note

When you center the table it takes the 100% width of the page

Table name
TITLE TITLE ID WORKING? NOTES
Example FAKE12345 Dunno Note

And by using width restrictions in one row, all other rows are aligned to it

Table name
TITLE TITLE ID WORKING? NOTES
Example FAKE12345 Dunno Note
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