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*Templates
*Templates
Something looks broken in some templates (e.g. the ones that are using this image: [[File:Imbox_content.png]], and some others that are using the other icons that appears at the bottom of Category:Templates
Something looks broken in some templates (e.g. the ones that are using this image: http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/File:Imbox_content.png), and some others that are using the other icons that appears at the bottom of http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Category:Templates
<-- those are imports from wikipedia or others.
^ those are imports from wikipedia or others.


After looking at most of them... i think all the templates needs a revision/update, i imagine you or other members of the staff are aware of it (there are logs of changes in lot of them), and also i imagine is not an easy task, but there are some easy to fix:
After looking at most of them... i think all the templates needs a revision/update, i imagine you or other members of the staff are aware of it (there are logs of changes in lot of them), and also i imagine is not an easy task, but there are some easy to fix:


*This ones seems to be tests, and can be erased, like:
*This ones seems to be tests, and can be erased, like:
**[[Template:Y]] -> used on [[QA_Flagging#Debug_Settings_.28CEX.2FDEX.29]]
**http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Template:Y -> used on http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/QA_Flagging#Debug_Settings_.28CEX.2FDEX.29
**[[Template:Yes:Failed]] -> future use reserved @ [[TemplateTest#Template_Test]]
**http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Template:Yes:Failed -> future use reserved @ http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/TemplateTest#Template_Test
**[[TemplateTest]] -> Things handy as reference from [[Wiki_Sandbox_Test]] need to be moved there
**http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/TemplateTest -> Things handy as reference from http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Wiki_Sandbox_Test need to be moved there
**[[Template:N]] -> used on [[QA_Flagging#Debug_Settings_.28CEX.2FDEX.29]]
**http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Template:N -> used on http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/QA_Flagging#Debug_Settings_.28CEX.2FDEX.29


*And others that has been converted to templates but can be moved to a "normal" page like:
*And others that has been converting to templates but can be moved to a "normal" page like:
**[[Comgenie%27s_Awesome_File_Manager]]
**http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Comgenie%27s_Awesome_File_Manager
**[[Free_Heroes_2]]
**http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Free_Heroes_2
**[[MultiMan]]
**http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/MultiMan
**[[Scogger_HD]]
**http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Scogger_HD
**[[SGT_Puzzles]]
**http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/SGT_Puzzles
^ all above are new 'experimental' formatted using templates to make sure page structure stays uniform while making auto menus more easier
^ all above are new 'experimental' formatted using templates to make sure page structure stays uniform while making auto menus more easier


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i only need to know if they are real or not and what they do.<br />
i only need to know if they are real or not and what they do.<br />
Here are the Mountpoints that are listed on the wiki [[Files on the PS3]].. maybe a new page with them can be really useful! <br />
Here are the Mountpoints that are listed on the wiki http://ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Files_on_the_PS3.. maybe a new page with them can be really useful! <br />
[[User:Deroad|Deroad]] 16:07, 28 June 2012 (MSK)
[[User:Deroad|Deroad]] 16:07, 28 June 2012 (MSK)


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: ''Actually I was referring to CEX/Retail and the default MFW tasks used to add Install Packages. Didnt look far into it, was just glad to see wiki was up, saw your edit and it reminded me of  something in my backlog of that day, so I thought, lets add that note before I forget'' [[User:Euss|Euss]]
: ''Actually I was referring to CEX/Retail and the default MFW tasks used to add Install Packages. Didnt look far into it, was just glad to see wiki was up, saw your edit and it reminded me of  something in my backlog of that day, so I thought, lets add that note before I forget'' [[User:Euss|Euss]]


About the naming of Shop FW. Terms like "SEX" are just pseudonyms, shop firmwares are technically CEX firmwares, they only work on ps3s with a retail (CEX) Product Codes, and the term "shop" is only mentioned in the index.dat, version.txt, vsh.self(update URL). The term "SEX" is never mentioned in Shop FWs. In the UPL.xml, shop FW uses the same '''<Product>''' value as retail FW (CEX-ww). I personally think it is incorrect to exclusively refer to retail FW as CEX FW, and then to say shop FW is SEX firmware as if it is SEX is another kind of Product Code. It's more correct to say '''Retail FW'''and '''Shop FW''' and class them both under CEX Firmware, or Firmwares made for CEX consoles. And as a side note, because they are both made for CEX PS3s, it is relatively easy to install either retail or shop fw on a CEX PS3 regardless of which one is already installed. Just generally, naming FWs after Product Codes is incorrect, it just so happens that for all PS3 types (except CEX) there is only one FW type which can be used with it.--[[User:Ps3hen|Ps3hen]] 09:18, 22 November 2012 (MSK)
About the naming of Shop FW. Terms like "SEX" are just pseudonyms, shop firmwares are technically CEX firmwares, they only work on ps3s with a retail (CEX) Target IDs, and the term "shop" is only mentioned in the index.dat, version.txt, vsh.self(update URL). The term "SEX" is never mentioned in Shop FWs. In the UPL.xml, shop FW uses the same '''<Product>''' value as retail FW (CEX-ww). I personally think it is incorrect to exclusively refer to retail FW as CEX FW, and then to say shop FW is SEX firmware as if it is SEX is another kind of target ID. It's more correct to say '''Retail FW'''and '''Shop FW''' and class them both under CEX Firmware, or Firmwares made for CEX consoles. And as a side note, because they are both made for CEX PS3s, it is relatively easy to install either retail or shop fw on a CEX PS3 regardless of which one is already installed. Just generally, naming FWs after target IDs is incorrect, it just so happens that for all PS3 types (except CEX) there is only one FW type which can be used with it.--[[User:Ps3hen|Ps3hen]] 09:18, 22 November 2012 (MSK)
: ''The SEX shortcode is just a made up name<!--// old insider joke, sexshop //-->. It saves you from writing "CEX/Retail patched to Shop/Kiosk/Demonstration by adding promo_flags in root of PUP or a firmware officially downloaded from [http://fshop01.ps3.update.playstation.net/update/ps3/list/shop/ps3-updatelist.txt Shop updater server] which updates independant from normal CEX/Retail server" - see also [[Product Code]]'' [[User:Euss|Euss]]
: ''The SEX shortcode is just a made up name<!--// old insider joke, sexshop //-->. It saves you from writing "CEX/Retail patched to Shop/Kiosk/Demonstration by adding promo_flags in root of PUP or a firmware officially downloaded from [http://fshop01.ps3.update.playstation.net/update/ps3/list/shop/ps3-updatelist.txt Shop updater server] which updates independant from normal CEX/Retail server" - see also [[Target ID]]'' [[User:Euss|Euss]]
::I see, well perhaps having a note next to SEX Firmware in the software settings table, just so people understand it's a CEX firmware too. Yes I have seen the Product Code page recently.--[[User:Ps3hen|Ps3hen]] 10:18, 22 November 2012 (MSK)
::I see, well perhaps having a note next to SEX Firmware in the software settings table, just so people understand it's a CEX firmware too. Yes I have seen the Target ID page recently.--[[User:Ps3hen|Ps3hen]] 10:18, 22 November 2012 (MSK)




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<br/>Regards, [[User:Strike_Venom|Strike Venom]] 16:25, 16 December 2012 (CET)
<br/>Regards, [[User:Strike_Venom|Strike Venom]] 16:25, 16 December 2012 (CET)


:Havent looked at authIDs, but I know both ROS where filled with [[0.85.009]] which is a DEX preretail FW - thus I assumed it was the DEH/cookie13 (it is a cookie13 for sure). But looking at the Product Code 0x83 made me doubt and it seemed a CEX preretail. Perhaps it is a CEX QA flagged, capable of runnning DEX - like that CBEH.<br />[[User:Euss|Euss]]
:Havent looked at authIDs, but I know both ROS where filled with [[0.85.009]] which is a DEX preretail FW - thus I assumed it was the DEH/cookie13 (it is a cookie13 for sure). But looking at the TargetID 83 made me doubt and it seemed a CEX preretail. Perhaps it is a CEX QA flagged, capable of runnning DEX - like that CBEH.<br />[[User:Euss|Euss]]


:It could be a special QA Token Flag that allows installing of FW for other Product Codes or the FW just doesn't check the Product Code. (Or: Maybe it's a preretail CEX FW?; The CBEH (CECH Prototypes) that I know do have CEX Product Code)<br />[[User:Strike_Venom|Strike Venom]]
:It could be a special QA Token Flag that allows installing of FW for other Target-IDs or the FW just doesn't check the Target ID. (Or: Maybe it's a preretail CEX FW?; The CBEH (CECH Prototypes) that I know do have CEX Target ID)<br />[[User:Strike_Venom|Strike Venom]]


:These are the [[Talk:Authentication_IDs#CoreOS_085.009_authIDs_examples|085.009 AuthIDs]]<br />[[User:Euss|Euss]]
:These are the [[Talk:Authentication_IDs#CoreOS_085.009_authIDs_examples|085.009 AuthIDs]]<br />[[User:Euss|Euss]]


:OK, it's the "normal" 085.009 ROM -> Either it's not checking the Product Code (If you look at the [[Talk:Playstation_Update_Package_(PUP)#Ancient_preproduction_.2F_prototype|ebootrom structure]], there's no way for the installer to determine for which Product Code this Update is) or a special QA-Flag is required.<br/>Update: I asked someone who owns a DEH-H1001-D and he says that the PS3 accepts only DEX Updates (even 4.30+!), so if this is a valid dump from a DEH-H1001-D, there must be something else that allows installing DEX FW on CEX.<br />[[User:Strike Venom|Strike Venom]]
:OK, it's the "normal" 085.009 ROM -> Either it's not checking the Target-ID (If you look at the [[Talk:Playstation_Update_Package_(PUP)#Ancient_preproduction_.2F_prototype|ebootrom structure]], there's no way for the installer to determine for which Target ID this Update is) or a special QA-Flag is required.<br/>Update: I asked someone who owns a DEH-H1001-D and he says that the PS3 accepts only DEX Updates (even 4.30+!), so if this is a valid dump from a DEH-H1001-D, there must be something else that allows installing DEX FW on CEX.<br />[[User:Strike Venom|Strike Venom]]


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  0F000000  00 00 2A 7F 12 1D 73 39 4A F2 98 81 F8 D6 B1 8C  ..*...s9Jò˜.øÖ±Œ
  0F000000  00 00 2A 7F 12 1D 73 39 4A F2 98 81 F8 D6 B1 8C  ..*...s9Jò˜.øÖ±Œ
  0F000010  00 00 2A 7F                                      ..*.
  0F000010  00 00 2A 7F                                      ..*.
which is that [[COOKIE-13]] board with {{CEX}} tid added in [[Talk:Flash:asecure_loader&diff=next&oldid=18285]] [[User:Euss|Euss]]
which is that [[COOKIE-13]] board with {{CEX}} tid added in [http://www.ps3devwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Flash:asecure_loader&diff=next&oldid=18285] [[User:Euss|Euss]]
br />[[User:Euss|Euss]]
br />[[User:Euss|Euss]]


:OK, it's the "normal" 085.009 ROM -> Either it's not checking the Product Code (If you look at the [[Talk:Playstation_Update_Package_(PUP)#Ancient_preproduction_.2F_prototype|ebootrom structure]], there's no way for the installer to determine for which Product Code this Update is) or a special QA-Flag is required.
:OK, it's the "normal" 085.009 ROM -> Either it's not checking the Target-ID (If you look at the [[Talk:Playstation_Update_Package_(PUP)#Ancient_preproduction_.2F_prototype|ebootrom structure]], there's no way for the installer to determine for which Target ID this Update is) or a special QA-Flag is required.


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  <sandungas> ...is also because i have the link stored in my browser as http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3
  <sandungas> ...is also because i have the link stored in my browser as http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3
  <sandungas> instead of http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Main_Page
  <sandungas> instead of http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Main_Page
  <sandungas> when you are logged in..... and you click in navigation links at left... for "PSdevwiki"... note the link points to http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3
  <sandungas> when you are logged in..... and you click in navigation links at left... for "PS3devwiki"... note the link points to http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3
  <sandungas> but you are automatically redirected to http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Main_Page (because you are logged in)
  <sandungas> but you are automatically redirected to http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Main_Page (because you are logged in)
  <sandungas> this redirection doesnt happens when logged off :'(
  <sandungas> this redirection doesnt happens when logged off :'(
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Hey Euss, I noticed that the hard drive page was locked, but needs some cleaning up. For instance, 1.5TB support was added in some firmware update (between 3.56 and 4.55?) and definitely works in current OFW, and also models are listed in the table, but in the "temporal notes" says it is missing. Could you unlock this page for edits? ~[[User:Derf Jagged|Derf Jagged]]
Hey Euss, I noticed that the hard drive page was locked, but needs some cleaning up. For instance, 1.5TB support was added in some firmware update (between 3.56 and 4.55?) and definitely works in current OFW, and also models are listed in the table, but in the "temporal notes" says it is missing. Could you unlock this page for edits? ~[[User:Derf Jagged|Derf Jagged]]
* Which page exactly? According to the logs, the [[Harddrive]] page should be already unlocked since 5<sup>th</sup> February 2014, 12:17h - [[User:Roxanne|Roxanne]] ([[User talk:Roxanne|talk]]) - 01<sup>st</sup> November 2016 - 18:19 GMT+1
* Which page exactly? According to the logs, the [[Harddrive]] page should be already unlocked since 5<sup>th</sup> February 2014, 12:17h - [[User:Roxanne|Roxanne]] ([[User talk:Roxanne|talk]]) - 01<sup>st</sup> November 2016 - 18:19 GMT+1
*The "temporal notes" below the table are listing some PS3 models that we had no idea (because nobody reported it and was not posible to find info in google about them) wich hdd model had at release date from factory (the PS3 models with unknown hdd's are: CECHMxx 80GB, CECH-21xxA 120GB, CECH-21xxB 250GB, CECH-25xxA 120GB, CECH-25xxB 250GB, CECH-40xxA 12GB, CECH-40xxB), at the right of those PS3 models appears a posible hdd model that sony was using at that date but are speculative though. After verifyed can be removed from that list and added to the table--[[User:Sandungas|Sandungas]] ([[User talk:Sandungas|talk]]) 19:08, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
*Also, at this point probably the table is missing some hdd models used by sony in new PS3 models (the newer ones from PS3 superslims) if exists are needed to be added in rows in between the table, the table is a bit hard to edit (it uses lot of rowspans and separation cells) if you need some help to edit it i will take a look--[[User:Sandungas|Sandungas]] ([[User talk:Sandungas|talk]]) 19:08, 1 November 2016 (UTC)


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