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***Not sure if you mean the latest edits i made to the template <nowiki>{{jumptoletter}}</nowiki> or the whole purpose of it. Regarding the purpose, the initial goal was to clear-out the bottom of the tables. This way the wiki editor newcomers are going to find a lot of non-understandable stuff at top but the bottom of the table will be very simple. The first requirement was to use an argument to highlight the current page section but later i improved it a lot more because i realized it can be used in many other pages like: <nowiki>{{Template:PS2_Classics_Emulator_Compatibility_List}}</nowiki>, <nowiki>{{Glossary}}</nowiki> or other pages i could be missing and/or could be created in the future, also is intended to be used in all the other compatibility list pages for PS1, PSP, etc...
***Not sure if you mean the latest edits i made to the template <nowiki>{{jumptoletter}}</nowiki> or the whole purpose of it. Regarding the purpose, the initial goal was to clear-out the bottom of the tables. This way the wiki editor newcomers are going to find a lot of non-understandable stuff at top but the bottom of the table will be very simple. The first requirement was to use an argument to highlight the current page section but later i improved it a lot more because i realized it can be used in many other pages like: <nowiki>{{Template:PS2_Classics_Emulator_Compatibility_List}}</nowiki>, <nowiki>{{Glossary}}</nowiki> or other pages i could be missing and/or could be created in the future, also is intended to be used in all the other compatibility list pages for PS1, PSP, etc...
****Let me try to show the problem first and try to think in reverse way, the question marks in the table cells are a problem, not only because they breaks the visual style, but mostly because doesnt represents anything at all, are exactly the same than keeping the cell empty, ive seen you made a template <nowiki>{{?}}</nowiki> to try to center the question mark a bit and give it a color but thats not enought imo because is just something visual, the root of the problem (not representing anything) is still there. I think the solution is to use the <nowiki>{{untested}}</nowiki> because it means that """The game was released for this region but nobody tested it""". In other words, is not intended to help the wiki editors, is a new requirement, everytime someone adds a new game he/she should take the effort to google and find for which regions was released and fill the table as a minimal with either <nowiki>{{untested}}</nowiki> or <nowiki>{{notavailable}}</nowiki>. Just to show you an example of what we can do with it, the other day i was checking for how many regions was published all the [[Special:Diff/59764/59765|games from the # section]] and i know i could replace all the question marks from the # section by <nowiki>{{untested}}</nowiki> because i know the games was published for that regions, also note there was many notes at right that was telling "untested" and i had to add some more notes with the text "untested", and that was not practical, with the new template <nowiki>{{untested}}</nowiki> we could delete that notes with the texts "untested" at the right
****Let me try to show the problem first and try to think in reverse way, the question marks in the table cells are a problem, not only because they breaks the visual style, but mostly because doesnt represents anything at all, are exactly the same than keeping the cell empty, ive seen you made a template <nowiki>{{?}}</nowiki> to try to center the question mark a bit and give it a color but thats not enought imo because is just something visual, the root of the problem (not representing anything) is still there. I think the solution is to use the <nowiki>{{untested}}</nowiki> because it means that """The game was released for this region but nobody tested it""". In other words, is not intended to help the wiki editors, is a new requirement, everytime someone adds a new game he/she should take the effort to google and find for which regions was released and fill the table as a minimal with either <nowiki>{{untested}}</nowiki> or <nowiki>{{notavailable}}</nowiki>. Just to show you an example of what we can do with it, the other day i was checking for how many regions was published all the [[Special:Diff/59764/59765|games from the # section]] and i know i could replace all the question marks from the # section by <nowiki>{{untested}}</nowiki> because i know the games was published for that regions, also note there was many notes at right that was telling "untested" and i had to add some more notes with the text "untested", and that was not practical, with the new template <nowiki>{{untested}}</nowiki> we could delete that notes with the texts "untested" at the right
* As I said I don't like those ideas ''personally'' but I'm the last one here to block any new ideas etc., especially not since I don't maintain at this wiki anymore on a regular basis. If you feel comfortable with it, go on but I had other views in this list. - [[User:Roxanne|Roxanne]] ([[User talk:Roxanne|talk]]) - 16th July 2021 - 21:16 GMT+1
** Regarding the "untested thing", this is what I mean. First we need to "clean" every Title on the whole lists which I know is huuuuuge work to do. But still who is interested when wants to add a Game to check if that Game got released in other regions or not or even if so, who is interested to test a Game from all three versions. If you check the changes in it's list, then you will recognize that only a very small amount of edits contains new entries for a Game, which got tested for two or even all three regions. Every other edit only contains a edit or a new entry for only ONE region  mostly.
*** Aah now I see the difference in "jumptoletter", but still don't like it, sorry.


== Guinea pig table ==
== Guinea pig table ==

Revision as of 20:16, 16 July 2021

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SOLVED ~ Editing Issues

Whenever I try to save my changes, the page just loads then blank white screen, stuck at URL http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/submit/PS2_Classics_Emulator_Compatibility_List No changes are getting saved beyond that.

  • Hello Sciaa, thank you for using the List.
    • We, the Team behind this wiki, are aware about those problems and we are working to fix this as quick as possible. I decided to protect the Page for editing before there will be more serious problems and damages but thanks for informing this issue. So long this problem is still there, the List is only in "read mode" available. Thanks for understanding - (Roxanne 16th September 2018 - 22:04 CET+1)
  • Sciaa (talk) 21:12, 24 October 2018 (UTC) : I've tested a full page edit; I see the reported issue has been completely resolved and normal editing is back to normal. If allowed, I'll migrate the contents of individual templates (by letter heading) back to the main page of the list.
    • EDIT: Issue is still ongoing if large chunks of text are to be saved/published. --Sciaa (talk) 01:49, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
      • I will need to test something, please don't use the main Page for editing it and please return to each letter Template. I will test something to fix the problems as well. Thanks for understanding (Roxanne 06th November 2018 - 22:04 CET+2)
      • Hey, Roxanne, I suspect what's causing the freezing or stuck up issue when saving edits is using too much {{templates}} on a single page. --Sciaa (talk) 03:50, 23 November 2018 (UTC)


Finished Maintenance

  • While the Design from the Main List keeps unchanged, we moved every Letter into it's each own Templates. While the Main List keeps protected for editing, everyone is allowed to add and/or edit new Game Titles in each Template. When you click on "Edit" right after each Letter, you will get redirected directly to the Edit Page from the Template itself. The huge advantage should be that both the Design keeps unchanged and the List keeps completed while the load times for each Edit should be reduced dramatically. But there is more testing needed. Maybe Sciaa would be so kind to add his "Pending Entries" via this new system. The only disadvantage is that you can't edit several Letters in a row. You have to edit each Letter by it's own (one Edit for "A", one for "B", one for "C" and so on). - (Roxanne 20th September 2018 - 19:55 CET+1)
    • And yes, the 2nd disadvantage is that it can take some time your edits gets displayed on the Main List when you edit a Template. But further testing will show what we can do here. (Roxanne 20th September 2018 - 20:02 CET+1)
    • Thanks, Rox for your update. No Edit Link for each letter list shows for me yet. (Sciaa)
      • They are the same Link right after each Letter.
      • No edit link after each letter -- even after I logged out and logged back in. -Sciaa
      • Ohh! Okay, I get it now. One has to do "View Source" > Expand "Templates used on this page" > Click "(edit)" beside "Template:PS2 Classics Emulator Compatibility List/(letter placeholder).
        • There is no need to go to „View Source“. Just use the „Edit“ Link right after each Letter from the Main List.
        • I still don't have (even now) that "edit" link after each letter from Main List so I had to use View Source. Maybe when all's back to normal. -Sciaa
          • And now ???
      • Oh no, the changes I made to "W" template (Way of Samurai and Way of Samurai 2) does not reflect on the "main list" page. -Sciaa
        • It seems that it can take up to roughly 12 hours. My edit from yesterday 8 pm is now on the Main List as well.
        • My Way of Samurai edits are now showing so yes, shows there's some delay for now. -Sciaa
          • Good to hear.

Changes 2021 july

I have some ideas for a few upgrades (practical and visual) related with the compatibility lists that affects several pages, are a lot of small details and i guess some of you will want to discusss them incase i missed something that coould be problematic or if you want to do some critic or suggestion. Later i will make a complete list of changes here to discuss them. I would like some agreement before starting doing the changes, if i dont see any feedback i will consider all you agrees with the changes--Sandungas (talk) 08:51, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

  • I my honest opinion, it would be more important to remove all the wrong and double titles and to clean up the list instead of changing it by design. Roxanne (talk) - 16th July 2021 - 16:51 GMT+1
    • I agree that {{Unplayable}} needs another color font but I recommend to make it white like it is for {{ps2classics}}
      • The Flagonly edit is good but I don't understand the changings for your "Jumptoletter" edits.
        • {{untested}} won't help much since people tend to add templates only for Games/Regions they also tested.
  • Im not sure what you mean, ive seen agrippa doing some changes related with the double titles and the style he is using is fine imo, i dont see any problem with it and i dont have any better idea to deal with it. The changes im proposing are unrelated with that, unless you want to propose some kind of rowspanning but that could be problematic for the sorting feature i added and confusing for wiki editors newcomers--Sandungas (talk) 16:31, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
    • {{unplayable}} and {{majorissues}} have the colors inverted with each other, and both uses a border that represents the state "pressed" because both are intended to represent something negative
      • Not sure if you mean the latest edits i made to the template {{jumptoletter}} or the whole purpose of it. Regarding the purpose, the initial goal was to clear-out the bottom of the tables. This way the wiki editor newcomers are going to find a lot of non-understandable stuff at top but the bottom of the table will be very simple. The first requirement was to use an argument to highlight the current page section but later i improved it a lot more because i realized it can be used in many other pages like: {{Template:PS2_Classics_Emulator_Compatibility_List}}, {{Glossary}} or other pages i could be missing and/or could be created in the future, also is intended to be used in all the other compatibility list pages for PS1, PSP, etc...
        • Let me try to show the problem first and try to think in reverse way, the question marks in the table cells are a problem, not only because they breaks the visual style, but mostly because doesnt represents anything at all, are exactly the same than keeping the cell empty, ive seen you made a template {{?}} to try to center the question mark a bit and give it a color but thats not enought imo because is just something visual, the root of the problem (not representing anything) is still there. I think the solution is to use the {{untested}} because it means that """The game was released for this region but nobody tested it""". In other words, is not intended to help the wiki editors, is a new requirement, everytime someone adds a new game he/she should take the effort to google and find for which regions was released and fill the table as a minimal with either {{untested}} or {{notavailable}}. Just to show you an example of what we can do with it, the other day i was checking for how many regions was published all the games from the # section and i know i could replace all the question marks from the # section by {{untested}} because i know the games was published for that regions, also note there was many notes at right that was telling "untested" and i had to add some more notes with the text "untested", and that was not practical, with the new template {{untested}} we could delete that notes with the texts "untested" at the right
  • As I said I don't like those ideas personally but I'm the last one here to block any new ideas etc., especially not since I don't maintain at this wiki anymore on a regular basis. If you feel comfortable with it, go on but I had other views in this list. - Roxanne (talk) - 16th July 2021 - 21:16 GMT+1
    • Regarding the "untested thing", this is what I mean. First we need to "clean" every Title on the whole lists which I know is huuuuuge work to do. But still who is interested when wants to add a Game to check if that Game got released in other regions or not or even if so, who is interested to test a Game from all three versions. If you check the changes in it's list, then you will recognize that only a very small amount of edits contains new entries for a Game, which got tested for two or even all three regions. Every other edit only contains a edit or a new entry for only ONE region mostly.
      • Aah now I see the difference in "jumptoletter", but still don't like it, sorry.

Guinea pig table

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Logo PS2.png  Name Europe.png  PAL-EU United States.png  NTSC-U/C Japan.png  NTSC-J Logo PS3.png  Compatibility Notes
{{ps2classic}} Store logo.pngPS2 Classic Template:Official Template:Official
{{ps2classic}} Store logo.pngPS2 Classic Template:Official Template:Official
{{playable}} Playable Playable Playable
{{playable}} Playable Playable Playable
{{minorissues}} Minor Issues Minor Issues Minor Issues
{{minorissues}} Minor Issues Minor Issues Minor Issues
{{majorissues}} Major Issues Major Issues Major Issues
{{majorissues}} Major Issues Major Issues Major Issues
{{unplayable}} Unplayable Unplayable Unplayable
{{unplayable}} Unplayable Unplayable Unplayable
{{notavailable}} Not Available Not Available Not Available
{{notavailable}} Not Available Not Available Not Available
{{untested}} Untested
{{untested}} Untested
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