Talk:User Rights Requests and Suggestions

I made a small list of some user rights that needs to be reviewed, sorry if i forgot someone. Im considering the contribution scores as something orientative because there is people with low scores that published some unique info (it was one of the few persons in this whole able to do it, we was lucky they did it), i gave them the category of "epic edits" (whatever that means, lol is not related with wiki dedication but with the quality of his edits), there is other people (maybe not in this list) with high score because they was doing wiki manteainance/organization tasks additionally to research and/or decvelopement (btw we could make a new "R&D" user group). Im not sure if my understanding of the "VIP" group matches with yours, to me it looks like it could be used as a fallback for the users with either a higher contribution scrore or labeled as "epic editor" that became inactive (most from the list below)--Sandungas (talk) 06:23, 25 March 2023 (CET)

nick             | score  | epic | active | trusted | others
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Flatz            | low    | yes  | no     | yes     | 
Glevand          | high   | yes  | no     | yes     |
Kakaroto         | low    | yes  | no     | yes     | 
Kozarovv         | high   | -    | yes    | yes     | 
M4j0r            | high   | yes  | yes    | yes     | 
MikeM64          | high   | -    | yes    | yes     | 
Mrjaredbeta      | high   | -    | yes    | yes     | 
Mysis            | high   | yes  | no     | yes     | 
Naehrwert        | medium | yes  | no     | yes     | 
Nas plugi        | medium | -    | no     | yes     | 
PsiCoLeO         | medium | -    | no     | yes     | 
Zer0Tolerance    | high   | -    | yes    | yes     | 
Graf chokolo     | low    | yes  | no     | yes     | 
Mathieulh        | high   | -    | no     | yes     | 
Nikitis          | medium | -    | no     | yes     | 
CrashSerious     | medium | -    | no     | yes     |

I will make a new list for everyone available to share my suggestions and everyone is welcome for their feedback. My main goals are:

• Remove both inactive users from higher roles together with active users having higher roles but not using them at all (because they have a "big name" or because of a broken CAPTCHA issue on the wiki)
• Every role must have at least two people sharing the same power to avoid vandalism or other bad stuff disturbing the integrity of the wiki and its content.
• New roles:
  • "VIP" for former Team members not active anymore for several years
  • "automoderated" doesn't need to get moderated within their changes
  • "interface-admin" editing the structure within the wikis
  • "moderator" can confirm or reject edits from all other users without having higher roles ("users" / "autoconfirmed users" and "all" [unregistered users])
  • "suppress" oversighting all internal actions within the wikis from all user groups
  • "trusted" for well-known people from the scene so you can be sure that reading his/her edits are legit

If everything will work, the wiki will have the following higher roles in particular order from the least power to the most:

• "all" (unregistered users)
• "users" / "autoconfirmed users"

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• "automoderated" NEW
• "trusted" / "VIP" NEW
• "moderators" NEW if you have higher roles right now and you feel you can "moderate" the wiki, feel free to ask for access
• "administrators"
• "checkuser"
• "bot" / "interface-admin" NEW
• "suppress" NEW
• "bureaucrats"

Roxanne

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I'll leave it up to you two to decide who gets what permissions since I don't have the historical context. But I would suggest that we remove the following roles and just wrap up all higher permissions into "trusted", "moderator", and "administrator". Moderators and Administrators are both trusted, and Administrators are also moderators.

• "checkuser" - Not really needed since all edits go to the moderation queue first anyway and unregistered users can make edits
• "Interface-Admin" - This was automatically created when updating MediaWiki. We should just give those rights to Administrators.
• "suppress" - Can just give those rights to moderators.
• "bureaucrats" - Can just give those rights to Administrators.
• "automoderated" - I created the Trusted users group to fill this role. Not sure if this one was auto-created.

Derf (talk) 16:41, 25 March 2023 (CET)

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Sorry but I have to disagree to this one.

• I use "checkuser" from time to time, especially when to combat spam (see logs).
• "Interface-Admin" I was planned to reserve this only to you and CrunchBite.
• "suppress", we need something higher than "Moderator" since Moderators can make mistakes and need control as well
• "bureaucrats" actually the most important one and this must stay (!) because it can give roles (this is why I mentioned it in my list as the highest one of all).
• "automoderated" I like it because I see it as a step in between for getting "trusted".

Roxanne

Roxanne's suggestions

User Name	Users	Autoconfirmed Users	Auto-Moderated	Trusted	VIP	Moderators	Administrators	Check Users	Bots	Bureaucrats	Notes
Admin	?	?	No	No	Yes	No	?	No	No	No	Maybe defyboy can handover his credentials (kinda as a backup), otherwise I suggest to remove it and protecting the words "Admin" and "Administrator" for any user creation.
Agrippa	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	No	Admin role was only giving by Roxanne before because of the non-working CAPTCHA when trying to add http:// Hyperlinks onto the wiki. "Trusted" because he/she is still an active user.
Anon (PS4)	Yes	Yes	No	No	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	Last contribution over 9.5 years ago (!!!) so I suggest to remove all higher roles and turning him into "VIP".
Anon Cypher	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	No	No	Admin role was only giving by Roxanne before because of the non-working CAPTCHA when trying to add http:// Hyperlinks onto the wiki (but being inactive for nearly two years).
CelesteBlue	Yes	Yes	No	Yes	No	Yes	Yes	No	No	No	"Trusted" because of his contribution to the scene, especially for PSVita. "Moderator" because he showed activity within the newest Moderation Logfile. "Administrator" because of combating SPAM in the past.
CrashSerious	Yes	Yes	No	No	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	Last contribution over 12.5 years ago (!!!) so I suggest to remove all higher roles and turning him into "VIP".
CrunchBite	Yes	Yes	No	Yes	No	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	Yes	As changed within March 23rd by Derf.
Derf	Yes	Yes	No	Yes	No	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	Yes	As changed within March 21st by Derf.
Developer Jeff	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	No	No	Admin role was only giving by Roxanne before because of the non-working CAPTCHA when trying to add http:// Hyperlinks onto the wiki (but being inactive for nearly two years).
Euss	Yes	Yes	No	No	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	As much as it would hurt my heart but I think we can't expect returning him, so I suggest to remove all higher roles here s well and turning him into "VIP".
Eussbot	Yes	Yes	No	No	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	Same as User "Euss" because there is content on its Talk page.
Flatz	Yes	Yes	No	No	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	Last contribution over 7.5 years ago (!!!) so I suggest to remove all higher roles and turning him into "VIP".
Glevand	Yes	Yes	No	No	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	Last contribution over 9.5 years ago (!!!) so I suggest to remove all higher roles and turning him into "VIP".
Graf chokolo (PS4)	Yes	Yes	No	No	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	Has no contribution to the wiki at all, so I suggest to remove all higher roles and turning him into "VIP".
GregoryRasputin	Yes	Yes	No	Yes	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	Special:Permalink/62174
Idc (PS4)	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	No	No	Admin role was only giving by Roxanne before because of the non-working CAPTCHA when trying to add http:// Hyperlinks onto the wiki (but being inactive for nearly two years).
IntelMiner (PS4)	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	No	No	Admin role was only giving by Roxanne before because of the non-working CAPTCHA when trying to add http:// Hyperlinks onto the wiki (but has never contributed to the wiki at all).
Kakaroto	Yes	Yes	No	No	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	Last contribution over 7.5 years ago (!!!) so I suggest to remove all higher roles and turning him into "VIP".
Kozarovv	Yes	Yes	No	Yes	No	Yes	Yes	No	No	No	"Trusted" because of his contribution to the scene, especially for the PS2. "Moderator" because he showed activity within the newest Moderation Logfile. "Administrator" because of combating SPAM in the past.
M4j0r	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	No	Admin role was only giving by Roxanne before because of the non-working CAPTCHA when trying to add http:// Hyperlinks onto the wiki. "Trusted" because he/she is still an active user.
MikeM64	?	?	No	No	?	No	No	No	No	No	Admin role was only giving by Roxanne before because of the non-working CAPTCHA when trying to add http:// Hyperlinks onto the wiki, but created another user because the Password Recovery wasn't working.
MikeM6464	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	No	No	Admin role was only giving by Roxanne before because of the non-working CAPTCHA when trying to add http:// Hyperlinks onto the wiki (but being inactive for nearly two years).
Mrjaredbeta	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	No	Admin role was only giving by Roxanne before because of the non-working CAPTCHA when trying to add http:// Hyperlinks onto the wiki. "Trusted" because he/she is still an active user.
MrMario2011 (PS4)	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	No	No	Admin role was only giving by Roxanne before because of the non-working CAPTCHA when trying to add http:// Hyperlinks onto the wiki (but being inactive for nearly two years).
Mysis	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	No	Yes	No	No	No	"Administrator" because of combating SPAM in the past.
Naehrwert	Yes	Yes	No	No	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	Last contribution over 9.5 years ago (!!!) so I suggest to remove all higher roles and turning him into "VIP".
Nagato (PS4)	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	No	No	Admin role was only giving by Roxanne before because of the non-working CAPTCHA when trying to add http:// Hyperlinks onto the wiki (but being inactive for nearly two years).
Nas plugi	Yes	Yes	No	No	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	Last contribution over 9.5 years ago (!!!) so I suggest to remove all higher roles and turning him into "VIP".
Niinono	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	No	No	Admin role was only giving by Roxanne before because of the non-working CAPTCHA when trying to add http:// Hyperlinks onto the wiki. "Auto-Moderated" only because being a new user.
Octopus	Yes	Yes	No	No	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	Last contribution over 9.5 years ago (!!!) so I suggest to remove all higher roles and turning him into "VIP".
Okawayati (PS4)	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	Yes	No	No	No	No	"Moderator" because showing activity within the Moderation Logfile on PS4 wiki.
PsiCoLeO	Yes	Yes	No	No	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	Last contribution over 11 years ago (!!!) so I suggest to remove all higher roles and turning him into "VIP".
Roxanne	Yes	Yes	No	No	No	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	Yes	As changed within March 21st by my humble self.
Sampleuser	No	No	No	No	No	No	No	No	No	No	As far as I can remember, this was only created by "Euss" to test some things, so I suggest to remove this user at all (or maybe protecting that name like for "Admin").
Sandungas	Yes	Yes	No	Yes	No	No	Yes	No	No	Yes	As far as I understood him correctly, he has no interest into "Moderation".
Stayhye (PS4)	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	No	Admin role was only giving by Roxanne before because of the non-working CAPTCHA when trying to add http:// Hyperlinks onto the wiki. "Trusted" because he/she is still an active user.
XDPx (PS4)	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	No	No	Admin role was only giving by Roxanne before because of the non-working CAPTCHA when trying to add http:// Hyperlinks onto the wiki (but being inactive for nearly two years).
Zecoxao	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	Yes	No	No	No	No	"Moderator" because showing activity within the Moderation Logfile on PS4 wiki.
Zer0Tolerance	Yes	Yes	No	Yes	No	Yes	Yes	No	No	No	"Trusted" because of his contribution to the scene. "Moderator" because he showed activity within the newest Moderation Logfile. "Administrator" because of combating SPAM in the past.