Talk:Syscon Hardware

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Problem with syscon pinout numeration in wiki in the SWX-xxx series (128 pins package)[edit]

In all the SWX-xxx series pages the pinout is numered starting with the pin1 at bottom-left corner (when viewing the syscon in the same orientation than the printed texts) this way:

  • """pin 1 left bottom at mark, counter clockwise from south (pins 1-38) to east (pins 39-64), north (pins 65-102), west (103-128))"""

In the first SW series is barelly visible (in the photos it looks is not marked) but in newer series is more visible, and is located at bottom-rigth corner, see this photos i marked: http://666kb.com/i/cnj3qic8k412x3p8r.jpg

  • All photos are taken from wiki visibles in his respective pages... look for the original photo to see it in better resolution (when posible because there are not much photos of syscons in wiki or internet)

If this is correct, is needed to change the info about the pinout in all the affected pinout tables (in all SWX-xxx pages)

PowerON/off HDMI/CEC, WiFi, Bluetooth, GbLAN, buttons etc[edit]

There is no seperate communication processor on the PS3. Powering is handled by syscon.

  • Power and eject buttons/switchs are connected with syscon (indirectly), there is no protocol involved, the syscon pins related with this buttons has 2 posible states: 3.3v (when button is not pressed)... or 0v (when button is pressed)

Multipage Correction[edit]

<TizzyT> eussnl my syscon is CXR714120-301GB its different form what the wiki says
CECHH / DIA-001

Package[edit]

http://pastie.org/private/tkcfjwit37huzyzoie7z5g BGA

ball count: 4x16 + 8x14 + 2x12 = 64+112+24 = 200 pads

new QF package is 26 * 38 = 128 pins

Clocks[edit]

SysCon clocks:

T4 XTAL / T5 EXTAL goes to [X4001] of 16.9344 MHz
C16 OSCIN / B16 OSCOUT goes to [X4002] of 32.768 kHz

http://oi52.tinypic.com/2s9ziw0.jpg

Backup Mode / Diag[edit]

BACKUP_MODE / DIAG_MODE pins on Gen 2 might be pins 110 and 111. They are pulled low. Not completely sure, but looking at those pins in relation to what's around them seems like it could be those two.


SEM-001 CECHG

Pink is N15 BACKUP_MODE
Blue is N16 DIAG_MODE

picture: http://psx-scene.com/forums/attachments/f149/26456d1300550098-brick-recovery-research-untitled-1.jpg source: http://psx-scene.com/forums/780185-post344.html !unverified!

According to schematics, DIAG and BACKUP_MODE are are shown in the following picture for COK-001 and COK-002 Motherboards - http://goput.it/69k.jpg These pins are tied to 3.3v so grounding them should enable each mode respectively. !unverified!


SoftID[edit]

Note: moved from seperate page, as there are already over 8 different syscon pages and the very same info is mention in depth on the SC firmware and SC hardware page (and in 150 wiki edits on the sysinfo page :/) we dont have a sperate page for every SELF flag either ;) (although there are >4 pages describing SELF :/)

a SoftID is just a 0x4 code that tells you the hardware revision of the syscon.
This info can be get through the More System Information method.
You can find them also inside the SYS_CON_FIRMWARE_*********.pkg (Syscon_Firmware) at the offset 0x28E (In this link you can found the list of the Syscon update packages)
every SoftID is associated with the ps3 mainboard. this means that you can know if a SC is compatible with your board without opening a PS3 ( Syscon Hardware)

SoftID SC Generation notes
Phats
0B8E 1 -
0C16 2 -
0D52 3 -
0DBF 4 -
0E69 5 -
0F29 6 -
0F38 7 -
065D 8 -
Slims
0832 9 -
08C2 10 -
0918 11 -

Datasheet of SoC similar to syscon[edit]

COK-002 with 0DBF syscon[edit]

Information: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-UiaHRjhdt50/UesKSGuxdFI/AAAAAAAAGOU/0FV8Fazyl60/s800/TV2013072019053700.jpg

Min ver: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-iUOuidm6v3g/UexEQily6TI/AAAAAAAAGOk/zSfBMpYDRAM/s800/TV2013072117272000.jpg

Board type: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-K1sc66WzJxo/Ue1Mdr5mHeI/AAAAAAAAGO8/rnqlidQAVfY/s800/DSC01591.JPG

Syscon: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-OTxjx3qJV0M/Ue1L2itOfRI/AAAAAAAAGO0/Bv6zli_xQQg/s800/DSC01590.JPG


Talk

-This breaks lot of standards/pages/tables in wiki, can you add some notes please ?. E.g: the board came from official repair service, bought in a normal shop, or is a frankenstein made at home ?, it boots correctly and allows firmware updates ?. If it works normally i think this proves CXR713120-20xGB and CXR714120-30xGB shares the same pinout, but the fact that is using 0DBF SoftID is a bit shocking (maybe because is the minimal SoftID allowed by CXR714120-30xGB ?... check SoftID examples in this table) --Sandungas 22:07, 24 July 2013 (MSK)

-The console is a CECHE01 MG (Metal Gear Solid 4 edition) and came with a 3rd generation BD drive (the first type with 2 lens). It had never been to SONY for service. It works normally, correctly and as you could see, has a minimum version which is compatible with the motherboard type. --l_oliveira


SHA1 hashes stored at eeprom[edit]

from http://www.edepot.com/playstation3.html

"Files finally stored into the FLASH regions have their associated SHA-1 hash value stored in the SYSCON EEPROM for authentication and verification purposes. "

What happens if we change those hashes to something a 3.55 ofw would have? (assuming we were doing this experiment on a hackable console?)

PS2 Mechacon vs PSP Syscon vs PS3 Syscon vs Vita Syscon vs PS4 Syscon[edit]

Production Start Date (<=) PS2 Mechacon PSP Syscon PS3 Syscon Vita Syscon PS4 Syscon Used IC/CPU Core
10/1999 CXP101064 - - - - Sony SPC970 (100 pin)
01/2000 CXP102064 - - - -
09/2000 CXP103049 - - - - Sony SPC??? (136 pin)
08/2004 - BARxx - - - NEC D790019 / D780032AY (78K0/78003xA, 64 pin)
07/2005 - B30x - - - NEC D79F0036 / D78F????? (78K0/KE2, 64 pin)
07/2007 - B40x - - - NEC D79F???? / D78F????? (78K0/???, 84 pin)
07/2008 - 3Axx - - - NEC D79F???? / D78F????? (78K0/???, ?? pin)
03/2009 - 3Bxx - - - NEC D79F???? / D78F????? (78K0/???, ?? pin)
05/2009 - 40xx - - - NEC D79F???? / D78F????? (78K0/???, ?? pin)
03/2003 CXR706080 - - - - Sony SR11
PS2 (Dragon): 164 pin
PS3 (Donkey): 200 pin
09/2004 CXR716080 - CXR713120 - -
07/2007 CXR726080 - CXR714120 - -
03/2008 - - SW - - NEC D79F0073 / D78F11AA (78K0R/KH3, 128 pin)
05/2009 - - SW2 - - NEC D79F0086 / D78F11BB (78K0R/KH3, 128 pin)
07/2010 - - - "SC" - NEC D79F0109 / D78F???? (78K0R/???, 121 pin)
06/2011 - - SW3 - - NEC D79F0123 / D78F11CC (78K0R/KG3, 100 pin)
07/2013 - - - - C0L Renesas R5F100PL (RL78/G13, 100 pin)
08/2013 - - - A0xxx - Renesas ?R5F120PL? (RL78/???, ?100? pin)
04/2015 - - - - C0L2 Renesas R5F101LL (RL78/G13, 64 pin)
  • The SPC900 core was designed by Texas Instruments [[1]]
  • CXP101064, CXP102064 are similar to CXP97 (CXP971000, CXP972032, CXP973064, CXP973F064)
    • In-Circuit-Emulator: Mitek NICE-SPC970 [[2]]; Debug software: SVD970; Flash programmer: SFP-2
  • A F inside the model name specifies if the IC contains flash memory.
    • Mass-produced units don't have/use program flash memory, instead a encrypted firmware patch is stored on the data-"EEPROM"
  • CXR7 series uses Sony SR11 CPU (ARM7TDMI)
    • Models with public datasheet: CXR702080, CXR702F080, CXR704060
    • Maybe based on the Texas Instruments TMS470R1 series (derived from TMS470R1B512 ?)
  • Prototype PS3 Syscon's:

Packets, Lovely Packets[edit]

Command Address Perms SubCommands Description
becount 0xCA7D 0xDD0C0000 - Display bringup/shutdown count + Power-on time
bepgoff 0xA4E7 0xD00C0000 - BE power grid off
bepkt 0x2435D 0xDC0C0000 show/set/unset/mode/debug/help Packet permissions
bestat 0xD413 0xFD0F0000 - Get status of BE
boardconfig 0x99C7 0xDC0C0000 - Displays board configuration (NOT WORKING?)
bootbeep 0x1EA67 0xF0000000 stat/on/off Boot beep
bringup 0xD597 0xFD0F0000 - Turn PS3 on
bsn 0xD805 0xF00F0000 - Get board serial number
bstatus 0x24269 0xDD0C0000 - HDMI related status
buzz 0xA4FF 0xDC0C0000 [freq] Activate buzzer
buzzpattern 0xA8B7 0xDC0C0000 [freq] [pattern] [count] Buzzer pattern
clear_err 0x2595B 0xDD0C0000 last/eeprom/all Clear errors
clearerrlog 0xB8CB 0xDD0C0000 - Clears error log
comm 0x9919 0xDC0C0000 - Communication mode
commt 0x24907 0xDC0C0000 help/start/stop/send Manual BE communication
cp 0x1E077 0xF0000000 ready/busy/reset/beepremote/beep2kn1n3/beep2kn2n3 CP control commands
csum 0xD687 0xFF0F0000 - Firmware checksum
devpm 0xD053 0xDD0C0000 ata/pci/pciex/rsx Device power management
diag 0x9AAD 0xD00C0000 ... Diag (execute without param to show help) (NOT WORKING?)
disp_err 0x25911 0xDD0C0000 - Displays errors
duty 0x9B23 0xDD0C0000 get/set/getmin/setmin/getmax/setmax/getinmin/setinmin/getinmax/setinmax Fan policy
dve 0x2995D 0xDC0C0000 help/set/save/show DVE chip parameters
eepcsum 0xAA65 0xDD0C0000 - Does nothing
eepromcheck 0x9A1D 0x000C0000 [id] Check eeprom
eeprominit 0x9A65 0x000C0000 [id] Init eeprom
ejectsw 0xD611 0xFD0F0000 - Eject switch
errlog 0xB7ED 0xFF0C0000 - Gets the error log
fancon 0xD26D 0x0D000000 - Does nothing
fanconautotype 0xC075 0xDD0C0000 - Does nothing
fanconmode 0xBF35 0xDD0C0000 get Fan control mode
fanconpolicy 0xBBC9 0xDD0C0000 get/set/getini/setini Fan control policy
fandiag 0x1E91B 0xF0000000 - Fan test
faninictrl 0xD3D9 0x0D000000 - Does nothing
fanpol 0xCA31 0xDD0C0000 - Does nothing
fanservo 0xBF29 0xDD0C0000 - Does nothing
fantbl 0xC087 0xDD0C0000 get/set/getini/setini/gettable/settable Fan table
firmud 0xD61D 0xFDFF0000 - Firmware update
geterrlog 0xB84F 0xDD0C0000 [id] Gets error log
getrtc 0xA6F3 0xDD0C0000 - Gets rtc
halt 0x1E107 0xF0000000 - Halts syscon
hdmi 0x29F39 0xDD0C0000 ... HDMI (various commands, use help)
hdmiid 0x29D1D 0xDC0F0000 - Get HDMI id's
hdmiid2 0x29D81 0xDC0F0000 - Get HDMI id's
hversion 0x2422F 0xDD0C0000 - Platform ID
hyst 0xAEF5 0xDD0C0000 get/set/getini/setini Temperature zones
lasterrlog 0xB7FF 0xDD0C0000 - Last error from log
ledmode 0xA80B 0xDC0C0000 [id] [id] Get led mode
LS 0x2421B 0xDD0C0000 - LabStation Mode
ltstest 0xCB97 0xDD0C0000 get/set be/rsx ?Temp related? values
osbo 0x1EA3F 0xF0000000 - Sets 0x2000F60
patchcsum 0xD9F7 0xDD0C0000 - Patch checksum
patchvereep 0xD9B1 0xDD0C0000 - Patch version eeprom
patchverram 0xD965 0xDD0C0000 - Patch version ram
poll 0x240E3 0xDD0C0000 - Poll log
portscan 0xDA0D 0xDD0C0000 [port] Scan port (NOT WORKING?)
powbtnmode 0xB911 0xDC0C0000 [mode (0/1)] Power button mode
powerstate 0xCE6F 0xDD0C0000 - Get power state
powersw 0xD5F9 0xFD0F0000 - Power switch
powupcause 0xB621 0xDD0C0000 - Power up cause
printmode 0x99D9 0xDC0C0000 [mode (0/1/2/3)] Set printmode
printpatch 0xD94F 0xDD0C0000 - Prints patch
r 0x8CA5 0xDD0C0000 [offset] [length] Read byte from SC
r16 0x8ED5 0xDD0C0000 [offset] [length] Read word from SC
r32 0x9191 0xDD0C0000 [offset] [length] Read dword from SC
r64 0x935D 0xDD0C0000 [offset] [length] Read qword from SC
r64d 0x948F 0xDD0C0000 [offset] [length] Read ?qword data? from SC
rbe 0x96F9 0xDD0C0000 [offset] Read from BE
recv 0x24135 0xDD0C0000 - Receive something
resetsw 0xD605 0xFC0F0000 - Reset switch
restartlogerrtoeep 0xB903 0xDD0C0000 - Reenable error logging to eeprom
revision 0xD7E1 0xFFFF0000 - Get softid
rrsxc 0xD313 0xDD0C0000 [offset] [length] Read from RSX
rtcreset 0xA7BB 0x000C0000 - Reset RTC
scagv2 0xE24F 0xFF000000 - Auth related?
scasv2 0xE207 0xDD000000 - Auth related?
scclose 0xE1EF 0xFF000000 - Auth related?
scopen 0xE121 0xFF000000 - Auth related?
send 0x2416F 0xDD0C0000 [variable] Send something
shutdown 0xD5C5 0xFD0F0000 - PS3 shutdown
startlogerrtsk 0xB8E7 0xDD0C0000 - Start error log task
stoplogerrtoeep 0xB8F5 0xDD0C0000 - Stop error logging to eeprom
stoplogerrtsk 0xB8D9 0xDD0C0000 - Stop error log task
syspowdown 0xB6E9 0xDD0C0000 3 params System power down
task 0x15005 0xDD0C0000 - Print tasks
thalttest 0xD813 0x000F0000 - Does nothing
thermfatalmode 0xCA3B 0xDD0C0000 canboot/cannotboot Set thermal boot mode
therrclr 0xD3E5 0xDD0C0000 - Thermal register clear
thrm 0xBF1D 0xDD0C0000 - Does nothing
tmp 0xAA69 0xDD0C0000 [zone] Get temperature
trace 0xB951 0xDD0C0000 ... Trace tasks (use help)
trp 0xAB2F 0xDD0C0000 get/set/getini/setini Temperature zones
tsensor 0xA279 0xDD0C0000 [sensor] Get raw temperature
tshutdown 0xB2A1 0xDD0C0000 get/set/getini/setini Thermal shutdown
tshutdowntime 0xC95D 0xDD0C0000 [time] Thermal shutdown time
tzone 0xB5E1 0xDD0C0000 - Show thermal zones
version 0xD65F 0xFFFF0000 - SC firmware version
w 0x8BF9 0xDD0C0000 [offset] [value] Write byte to SC
w16 0x8E2D 0xDD0C0000 [offset] [value] Write word to SC
w32 0x8FED 0xDD0C0000 [offset] [value] Write dword to SC
w64 0x92A9 0xDD0C0000 [offset] [value] Write qword to SC
wbe 0x9665 0xDD0C0000 [offset] [value] Write to BE
wmmto 0xCB3B 0xDC0C0000 get Get watch dog timeout
wrsxc 0xD279 0xDD0C0000 [offset] [value] Write to RSX
xdrdiag 0x1E711 0xF0000000 start/info/result XDR diag
xiodiag 0x1E875 0xF0000000 - XIO diag
xrcv 0x25313 0xDC0C0000 - Xmodem receive