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== Games Compatibility ==
==Alphabetical order of the table rows in the compatibility lists==
Since some months ago, the tables used in the compatibility lists uses the "sortable" feature (see [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Sorting 1] and [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Sorting 2]) and is relativelly easy to find the game names incorrectly ordered. The proceure to check if the order is right is:
#) Reload the page (just incase you had the page already loaded and you was clicking in the sorting arrows, by reloading the page we are resetting all he columns sortings to defaults)
#) Click in the arrow at top of the "Name" column and see if some of the horizontal rows have moved. If one or more rows was moved it means that rows are incorrectly ordered<br>
The procedure to fix it is pretty much the same, the trick is to keep attention at how mediawiki is reordering them when we click in the arrows:
#) Click in "edit" in one of the page sections
#) Click in the arrow at top of the "Name" column
#) Move the problematic rows up/down by copypasting them
#) Update the sortings by clicking in "show preview"<br>
In the long tables (bigger than your vertical screen size) is needed to repeat it a few times to realize which row is the culprit and where needs to be relocated. The final confirmation that all the rows has been correctly ordered is if we click in the "Name" arrow and all the rows '''stays in his position''' (this means the order how are written in the page matches with the sorting methods used internally by mediawiki software)--[[User:Sandungas|Sandungas]] ([[User talk:Sandungas|talk]]) 12:53, 13 August 2022 (UTC)


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==Discussion, ideas, brainstormings goes here==
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No hurry this rebuilding take days, weeks or more in the way i see, at this day (october 7 2017) the emulation frontpage and talk pages has been splitted and cleaned up completly, the reason for this carnage is because i think is better to start from scratch without any restriction in how are going to look and his purposes, there are a lot fo details needed to be mentioned but this is just an introductory explain of
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! Title !! ps1<br />emu !! ps1<br />netemu !! ps1<br />newemu !! Other !! Notes
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| 007 Racing ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 102 Dalmatians: Puppies to the Rescue ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 16 Tales ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 16 Tales 2 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 16 Tales 3 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 16 Tales 4 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 1Xtreme ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 2002 FIFA World Cup ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 2Xtreme ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 3, 2, 1... Smurf! My First Racing Game ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 360: Three Sixty ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 3D Baseball ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 3D Fighting School ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 3D Kakutou Tsukuru ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 3D Lemmings ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 3D Shooting Tsukuru ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 3D-Kaleidoscope Baby Universe ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 3x3 Eyes: Kyuusei Koushu ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 3X3 Eyes: Tenrinougenmu ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 3Xtreme ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 40 Winks ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 4-4-2 Soccer ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 4th Super Robot Wars Scramble ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 4x4 World Trophy ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 5 Star Racing ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| 70's Robot Anime Geppy-X ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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! Title !! ps1<br />emu !! ps1<br />netemu !! ps1<br />newemu !! Other !! Notes
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| A Bug's Life ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| A.IV Evolution ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Abala Burn - A Battle Legend of Astterica ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Ace Combat 2 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Ace Combat 3: Electrosphere ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Aces of the Air ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Acid ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Aconcagua ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Action Bass ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Action Man: Destruction X ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Action Man: Operation Extreme ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Actua Golf ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Actua Golf 2 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Actua Golf 3 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Actua Ice Hockey ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Actua Ice Hockey 2 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Actua Pool ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Actua Soccer ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Actua Soccer 2 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Actua Soccer 3 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Actua Soccer Club Edition ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Actua Tennis ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Adiboo & Paziral's Secret ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Adidas Power Soccer ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Adidas Power Soccer 2 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Adidas Power Soccer 98 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Adidas Power Soccer International 97 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Advan Racing ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Advanced V.G. ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Advanced V.G. 2 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| AFL '99 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Agent Armstrong ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Agile Warrior ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Agile Warrior F-111X ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Air Combat ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Air Hockey ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Aironauts ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| AIV Evolution Global ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Akuji the Heartless ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Alex Ferguson's Player Manager 2001 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Alex Ferguson's Player Manager 2002 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Alexi Lalas International Soccer ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Alfred Chicken ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Alien Trilogy ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Alien: Resurrection ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| ALIVE ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| All Japan Woman Pro Wrestling ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| All Star Boxing ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| All Star Soccer ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| All Star Tennis ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| All Star Tennis 2000 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| All Star Tennis '99 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| All Star Watersports ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Allied General ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| All-Star 1997 featuring Frank Thomas ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| All-Star Racing ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| All-Star Racing 2 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| All-Star Slammin' D-ball ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Alone in the Dark: Jack Is Back ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Alone in the Dark: One-Eyed Jack's Revenge ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Alone in the Dark: The New Nightmare ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Alundra ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Alundra 2 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| American Deer Hunter ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| American Pool ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Amerzone ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Anastasia ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Andretti Racing ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Angel Blade: Neo Tokyo Guardians ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Angel Eyes ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Angel Graffiti: Anathe no Profile ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Animal Football ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Animal Snap ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Animaniacs Ten Pin Alley ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Anime Chick Story 1: Card Captor Sakura ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Animorphs: Shattered Reality ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Anna Kournikova's Smash Court Tennis ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Ape Escape ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Apocalypse ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Aqua GT ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Aquanaut's Holiday ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Aquanaut's Holiday: Memories of Summer 1996 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Arc the Lad ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Arc the Lad Collection ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Arc the Lad II ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Arc the Lad III ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Arc the Lad: Monster Game with Casino Game ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Arcade Party Pak ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Arcade's Greatest Hits: Atari Collection 2 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Arcade's Greatest Hits: Midway Collection 2 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Arcade's Greatest Hits: The Atari Collection 1 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Archer Mclean's 3D Pool ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Area 51 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Ark of Time ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Arkanoid Returns ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Armored Core ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Armored Core: Master of Arena ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Armored Core: Project Phantasma ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Armored Trooper Votoms: Lightning Slash ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Armorines: Project S.W.A.R.M. ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Army Men 3D ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Army Men: Air Attack ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Army Men: Air Attack 2 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Army Men: Green Roguevoice over video games ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Army Men: Land, Sea, Air ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Army Men: Lock 'n' Load ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Army Men: Operation Meltdown ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Army Men: Sarge's Heroes ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Army Men: Sarge's Heroes 2 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Army Men: Team Assault ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Army Men: World War ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Army Men: World War - Final Front ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Arthur! Ready to Race ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Assault ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Assault Rigs ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Assault: Retribution ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Asterix ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Asterix and Obelix Take on Caesar ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Asterix Mega Madness ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Asteroids ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Asuka 120% Burning Fest. Final ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Asuka 120% Excellent: Burning Festival ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Asuka 120% Special Burning Fest ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Atari Anniversary Edition ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Atari Anniversary Edition Redux ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Atelier Marie ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Athena: Awakening From The Ordinary Life ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Atlantis: The Lost Continent ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Atlantis: The Lost Tales ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| A-Train ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Attack of the Saucerman ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| ATV Mania ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| ATV Quad Power Racing ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| ATV Racers ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| AubirdForce ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Austin Powers Pinball ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Auto Destruct ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Ayrton Senna Kart Duel 2 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Azito 2 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Aztec: The Curse in the Heart of the City of Gold ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Azure Dreams ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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! Title !! ps1<br />emu !! ps1<br />netemu !! ps1<br />newemu !! Other !! Notes
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| B.L.U.E. Legend of Water ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Baby Felix Tennis ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Baby Universe ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Backguiner ~Yomigaeru Yuushatachi~ "Guiner Tenshou" ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Backguiner ACT-2 ~Yomigaeru Yuushatachi~ Hishou Hen "Uragiri no Senjou" ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Backstreet Billiards ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Backyard Soccer ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Bakuretsu Hunter: Mahjong Special ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Bakusou Dekotora Densetsu: Art Truck Battle ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Bakusou Kyoudai Let's & Go!! Eternal Wings ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Baldies ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Baldy Land ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Ball Breakers ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Ballblazer Champions ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Ballerburg ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Ballistic ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Barbie Explorer ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Barbie Race and Ride ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Barbie Super Sports ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Barbie: Gotta Have Games ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Barble Explorer ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Baroque ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Baseball 2000 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Bases Loaded '96 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Bass Fishing ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Bass Landing ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Bass Rise ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Bastard!! ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Batman & Robin ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker US ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Batman Forever: The Arcade Game ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Batman of the Future: Return of the Joker EU ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Batman: Gotham City Racer ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Battle Arena Toshinden ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Battle Arena Toshinden 2 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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| Battle Arena

Latest revision as of 10:34, 25 September 2022

Alphabetical order of the table rows in the compatibility lists[edit source]

Since some months ago, the tables used in the compatibility lists uses the "sortable" feature (see 1 and 2) and is relativelly easy to find the game names incorrectly ordered. The proceure to check if the order is right is:

  1. ) Reload the page (just incase you had the page already loaded and you was clicking in the sorting arrows, by reloading the page we are resetting all he columns sortings to defaults)
  2. ) Click in the arrow at top of the "Name" column and see if some of the horizontal rows have moved. If one or more rows was moved it means that rows are incorrectly ordered

The procedure to fix it is pretty much the same, the trick is to keep attention at how mediawiki is reordering them when we click in the arrows:

  1. ) Click in "edit" in one of the page sections
  2. ) Click in the arrow at top of the "Name" column
  3. ) Move the problematic rows up/down by copypasting them
  4. ) Update the sortings by clicking in "show preview"

In the long tables (bigger than your vertical screen size) is needed to repeat it a few times to realize which row is the culprit and where needs to be relocated. The final confirmation that all the rows has been correctly ordered is if we click in the "Name" arrow and all the rows stays in his position (this means the order how are written in the page matches with the sorting methods used internally by mediawiki software)--Sandungas (talk) 12:53, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Discussion, ideas, brainstormings goes here[edit source]

No hurry this rebuilding take days, weeks or more in the way i see, at this day (october 7 2017) the emulation frontpage and talk pages has been splitted and cleaned up completly, the reason for this carnage is because i think is better to start from scratch without any restriction in how are going to look and his purposes, there are a lot fo details needed to be mentioned but this is just an introductory explain of the discussion that goes under this line, feel free to join the party by giving your ideas and oppinions and help to solve the problems

Bringing back some moved texts[edit source]

Probably there are lot of small sentences or sections that has been moved to the other pages... but could fit well here because are general concepts or could work as an introduction... the rule of gold now is this page is "noob oriented" and the others are "technically oriented", im not experienced in emulators so much to make this changes rewriting and moving texts back and forth and i fear to "break" something though--Sandungas (talk) 13:58, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Wiki navigation tables/lists for emulation frontpage[edit source]

  • ps1_emu.self
    • available for PS3 models - all
    • available in firmwares - since 1.02
    • game format - original CD inserted in the drive
    • savedata format (hdd) - dev_hdd0/savedata/vmc/<virtual_memcard>.VM1
    • savedata format (usb) - dev_usb0/PS3/EXPORT/PSV/<Save_ID>.PSV
    • savedata format (mc) - mc_root/ (by using a memory card adapter)
    • technical page - PS1 Emulation
    • game compatibility list - NEEDED
  • ps1_netemu.self
    • available for PS3 models - all (PS1 classics)
    • available in firmwares - since 1.70
    • game format - ISO.BIN.EDAT (officially), BIN/CUE (unofficially)
    • savedata format (hdd) - ?
    • savedata format (usb) - dev_usb0/PSP/SAVEDATA/<SAVEDATA_DIRECTORY>/SCEVMC0.VMP
    • savedata format (mc) - allowed ?
    • technical page - PS1 Emulation
    • game compatibility list - PS1 Classics Emulator Compatibility List
  • ps1_newemu.self
    • available for PS3 models - ?
    • available in firmwares - since 2.10
    • game format - ?
    • savedata format/path - ?
    • technical page - PS1 Emulation
    • game compatibility list - needed ?


  • ps2_softemu.self
    • available for PS3 models - fats/slim newer than CECHC
    • available in firmwares - since 1.90 then blocked in 3.50 and removed in 4.21 ?
    • game format - original CD/DVD inserted in the drive
    • savedata format/path - ?
    • technical page - PS2 Emulation
    • game compatibility list - not needed (abandoned officially and superseded by netemu)
  • ps2_netemu.self
    • available for PS3 models - all (PS2 classics)
    • available in firmwares - since 3.70
    • game format - ISO.BIN.EDAT ISO.BIN.ENC (officially), BIN CUE (unofficially)
    • savedata format/path - APPDIR/USRDIR/SAVEDATA/SCEVMC0.VME and SCEVMC1.VME
    • settings - by using CONFIG files
    • technical page - PS2 Emulation
    • game compatibility list - PS2 Classics Emulator Compatibility List


  • psp_emulator.elf
    • available for PS3 models - all but CECHB ? (PSP Remasters ?)
    • available in firmwares - since 3.15
    • game format - ISO.BIN.EDAT and APPDIR/USRDIR/CONTENT/EBOOT.PBP/DATA.PSAR ? (PSP minis)
    • savedata format (hdd) - dev_hdd0/home/<userid>/minis_savedata/<SAVEDATA_DIRECTORY>/Files
    • savedata format (usb) - dev_usb0/PSP/SAVEDATA/<SAVEDATA_DIRECTORY>/Files
    • savedata format/path - ?
    • technical page - PSP Emulation
    • game compatibility list - PSP Emulator Compatibility List
  • psp_translator.elf
    • available for PS3 models - all but CECHB ? (PSP Minis ?)
    • available in firmwares - since 3.15
    • game format - ?
    • savedata format/path - ?
    • technical page - PSP Emulation
    • game compatibility list - Needed ? (for minis ?)

PS2 Config Commands splitting[edit source]

I think is about time to split the PS2 Emulation#Config Commands (currently a page section) into a dedicated page named PS2 Config Commands that could be included in Template:Reverse engineering (next to PS2 Emulation). The Template:Boxcomm used currently was a temporal visual fix to avoid a massive TOC in PS2 Emulation but in the dedicated page we will not need it (there is another named Template:Boxtip1 Template:Boxtip2 Template:Boxtip3 more handy to include some "noob friendly" descriptions), every command will be a page section (and we will be able to read the complete list of comand names in the TOC, edit them individually, and see the changelog in the "recent changes" page indiividually too). The new page doesnt needs to be composed as a single list of commands only (page sections), we can create many other sections as example to prepare some kind of intro/tutorial of related stuf (even the tools used to dissasembly, or the tricks used to debug in PC emulators), or use other alternative names for the page name like "The PS2 Config Workshop", comment below with your suggestions. This splitting also implyes we need to move the speculative/unconfirmed info from the old talk page to the new talk page --Sandungas (talk) 08:34, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

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