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== Problem with syscon pinout numeration in wiki in the SWX-xxx series (128 pins package) ==
== Notes ==
In all the SWX-xxx series pages the pinout is numered starting with the pin1 at bottom-left corner (when viewing the syscon in the same orientation than the printed texts) this way:
*The SoftID (Syscon firmware build id) of retail chips is a 1:1 mapping to the syscon model. So each syscon model does have a unique SoftID.
*"""pin 1 left bottom at mark, counter clockwise from south (pins 1-38) to east (pins 39-64), north (pins 65-102), west (103-128))"""
*Every syscon within a series (CXR, SW, SW2, SW3) is backwards compatible, e.g. every CXR Syscon works on the COK-001, but only 202GB and newer on a COK-002.
In the first SW series is barelly visible (in the photos it looks is not marked) but in newer series is more visible, and is located at bottom-rigth corner, see this photos i marked:
*The SW and the SW2 are not interchangable (because of the CEC handling which uses hardcoded HDMI stuff).
http://666kb.com/i/cnj3qic8k412x3p8r.jpg
*The actual platform configuration which defines the board on the which Syscon resides is stored in the EEPROM (CXR) or Flash data section (SW), it can be mapped to the platform id.
*In theory even the SW(1) chips work on Mullion boards if you adapt them.


*All photos are taken from wiki visibles in his respective pages... look for the original photo to see it in better resolution (when posible because there are not much photos of syscons in wiki or internet)
== Prototype sherwoods ==
 
The sherwood table already have a row for D79F0073, should we add a couple more rows for D79F0086 and D79F0123 ?
If this is correct, is needed to change the info about the pinout in all the affected pinout tables (in all SWX-xxx pages)
 
== PowerON/off HDMI/CEC, WiFi, Bluetooth, GbLAN, buttons etc ==
There is no seperate communication processor on the PS3. Powering is handled by syscon.
 
*Power and eject buttons/switchs are connected with syscon (indirectly), there is no protocol involved, the syscon pins related with this buttons has 2 posible states: 3.3v (when button is not pressed)... or 0v (when button is pressed)
 
== Multipage Correction ==
<TizzyT> eussnl my syscon is CXR714120-301GB its different form what the wiki says
CECHH / DIA-001
 
=== Package ===
http://pastie.org/private/tkcfjwit37huzyzoie7z5g BGA
 
ball count: 4x16 + 8x14 + 2x12 = 64+112+24 = 200 pads
 
new QF package is 26 * 38 = 128 pins
 
=== Clocks ===
SysCon clocks:
T4 XTAL / T5 EXTAL goes to [X4001] of 16.9344 MHz
C16 OSCIN / B16 OSCOUT goes to [X4002] of 32.768 kHz
http://oi52.tinypic.com/2s9ziw0.jpg
 
=== Backup Mode / Diag ===
BACKUP_MODE / DIAG_MODE pins on Gen 2 might be pins 110 and 111. They are pulled low.
Not completely sure, but looking at those pins in relation to what's around them seems like it could be those two.
 
----
 
SEM-001 CECHG
Pink is N15 BACKUP_MODE
Blue is N16 DIAG_MODE
picture: http://psx-scene.com/forums/attachments/f149/26456d1300550098-brick-recovery-research-untitled-1.jpg
source: http://psx-scene.com/forums/780185-post344.html !unverified!
 
According to schematics, DIAG and BACKUP_MODE are are shown in the following picture for COK-001 and COK-002 Motherboards - http://goput.it/69k.jpg
These pins are tied to 3.3v so grounding them should enable each mode respectively.
!unverified!
 
----
=== SoftID ===
''Note: moved from seperate page, as there are already over 8 different syscon pages and the very same info is mention in depth on the SC firmware and SC hardware page (and in 150 wiki edits on the sysinfo page :/) we dont have a sperate page for every SELF flag either ;) (although there are >4 pages describing SELF :/)''
 
a SoftID is just a 0x4 code that tells you the hardware revision of the syscon.<br />
This info can be get through the [[More System Information]] method.<br />
You can find them also inside the SYS_CON_FIRMWARE_*********.pkg ([[Syscon_Firmware]]) at the offset '''0x28E''' (In this link you can found the list of the [[Syscon_Firmware#Known_Retail_syscon_update_packages| Syscon update packages]])<br />
every SoftID is associated with the ps3 mainboard. this means that you can know if a SC is compatible with your board without opening a PS3 ([[Syscon_Hardware#Serialnumbers_.40_SKU| Syscon Hardware]])
 
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! SoftID !! SC Generation !! notes
|-
! colspan="4" id="null"| Phats
|-
| 0B8E || 1 || -
|-
| 0C16 || 2 || -
|-
| 0D52 || 3 || -
|-
| 0DBF || 4 || -
|-
| 0E69 || 5 || -
|-
| 0F29 || 6 || -
|-
| 0F38 || 7 || -
|-
| 065D || 8 || -
|-
! colspan="4" id="null"| Slims
|-
| 0832 || 9 || -
|-
| 08C2 || 10 || -
|-
| 0918 || 11 || -
|-
|}
 
=== Datasheet of SoC similar to syscon ===
* [http://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pdf/294279/SONY/CXR704060.html Sony CXR704060 datasheet.pdf] [http://mir.cr/LJOMNBFO mirror]
 
== COK-002 with 0DBF syscon ==
 
Information:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-UiaHRjhdt50/UesKSGuxdFI/AAAAAAAAGOU/0FV8Fazyl60/s800/TV2013072019053700.jpg
 
Min ver:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-iUOuidm6v3g/UexEQily6TI/AAAAAAAAGOk/zSfBMpYDRAM/s800/TV2013072117272000.jpg
 
Board type:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-K1sc66WzJxo/Ue1Mdr5mHeI/AAAAAAAAGO8/rnqlidQAVfY/s800/DSC01591.JPG
 
Syscon:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-OTxjx3qJV0M/Ue1L2itOfRI/AAAAAAAAGO0/Bv6zli_xQQg/s800/DSC01590.JPG
 
 
'''Talk'''
 
-This breaks lot of standards/pages/tables in wiki, can you add some notes please ?. E.g: the board came from official repair service, bought in a normal shop, or is a frankenstein made at home ?, it boots correctly and allows firmware updates ?. If it works normally i think this proves CXR713120-20xGB and CXR714120-30xGB shares the same pinout, but the fact that is using 0DBF SoftID is a bit shocking (maybe because is the minimal SoftID allowed by CXR714120-30xGB ?... [[Talk:More_System_Information | check SoftID examples in this table]]) --[[User:Sandungas|Sandungas]] 22:07, 24 July 2013 (MSK)
 
-The console is a CECHE01 MG (Metal Gear Solid 4 edition) and came with a 3rd generation BD drive (the first type with 2 lens). It had never been to SONY for service. It works normally, correctly and as you could see, has a minimum version which is compatible with the motherboard type. --l_oliveira
 
 
== SHA1 hashes stored at eeprom ==
 
from http://www.edepot.com/playstation3.html
 
"Files finally stored into the FLASH regions have their associated SHA-1 hash value stored in the SYSCON EEPROM for authentication and verification purposes. "
 
What happens if we change those hashes to something a 3.55 ofw would have? (assuming we were doing this experiment on a hackable console?)
 
== PS2 Mechacon vs PSP Syscon vs PS3 Syscon vs Vita Syscon vs PS4 Syscon ==
 
{| class="wikitable"
! Production Start Date (<=) || PS2 Mechacon !! PSP Syscon !! PS3 Syscon !! Vita Syscon !! PS4 Syscon !! Used IC/CPU Core
|-
| <abbr title="GH-001+">10/1999</abbr> || CXP101064 || - || - || - || - || rowspan="2" | Sony SPC970 (100 pin)
|-
| <abbr title="GH-003+">01/2000</abbr> || CXP102064 || - || - || - || -
|-
| <abbr title="GH-015+">09/2000</abbr> || CXP103049 || - || - || - || - || Sony SPC??? (136 pin)
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
| colspan="7" |
|-
| <abbr title="TMU-001, TMU-002, TA-079, TA-081">08/2004</abbr> || - || BAR''xx'' || - || - || - || NEC D790019 / D780032AY (78K0/78003xA, 64 pin)
|-
| <abbr title="TA-082, TA-086">07/2005</abbr> || - || B30''x'' || - || - || - || NEC D79F0036 / D78F????? (78K0/KE2, 64 pin)
|-
| <abbr title="TA-085, TA-088">07/2007</abbr> || - || B40''x'' || - || - || - || NEC D79F???? / D78F????? (78K0/???, 84 pin)
|-
| <abbr title="TA-090, TA-092">07/2008</abbr> || - || 3A''xx'' || - || - || - || NEC D79F???? / D78F????? (78K0/???, ?? pin)
|-
| <abbr title="TA-093, TA-095, TA-096, TA-097">03/2009</abbr> || - || 3B''xx'' || - || - || - || NEC D79F???? / D78F????? (78K0/???, ?? pin)
|-
| <abbr title="TA-091, TA-094">05/2009</abbr> || - || 40''xx'' || - || - || - || NEC D79F???? / D78F????? (78K0/???, ?? pin)
|-
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
| colspan="7" |
|-
| <abbr title="GH-023+, XPD-001, XPD-005">03/2003</abbr> || CXR706080 || - || - || - || - || rowspan="3" | Sony SR11<br>PS2 (''Dragon''): 164 pin<br>PS3 (''Donkey''): 200 pin
|-
| <abbr title="GH-032+">09/2004</abbr> || CXR716080 || - || CXR713120 || - || -
|-
| <abbr title="GH-061+">07/2007</abbr> || CXR726080 || - || CXR714120 || - || -
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
| colspan="7" |
|-
| 03/2008 || - || - || SW || - || - || NEC D79F0073 / D78F11AA (78K0R/KH3, 128 pin)
|-
| 05/2009 || - || - || SW2 || - || - || NEC D79F0086 / D78F11BB (78K0R/KH3, 128 pin)
|-
| <abbr title="IRT-001, IRT-002, IRS-002, IRS-1001, DOL-1001, DOL-1002">07/2010</abbr> || - || - || - || <abbr title="No official name">"SC"</abbr> || - || NEC D79F0109 / D78F???? (78K0R/???, 121 pin)
|-
| 06/2011 || - || - || SW3 || - || - || NEC D79F0123 / D78F11CC (78K0R/KG3, 100 pin)
|-
|- bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
| colspan="7" |
|-
| <abbr title="CVN-001, SAA-001, SAB-001">07/2013</abbr> || - || - ||- || - || C0L || Renesas R5F100PL (RL78/G13, 100 pin)
|-
| <abbr title="USS-1001, USS-1002">08/2013</abbr> || - || - ||- || A0''xxx'' || - || Renesas {{unk|R5F120PL}} (RL78/???, {{unk|100}} pin)
|-
| <abbr title="SAC-001, SAD-001, SAD-002, SAD-003, SAE-001, SAE-002, SAE-003, SAE-004, HAC-001, NVA-001, NVB-003, NVB-004, NVG-001, NVG-002">04/2015</abbr> || - || - ||- || - || C0L2 || Renesas R5F101LL (RL78/G13, 64 pin)
|-
|}
 
* The SPC900 core was designed by Texas Instruments [[https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirakawa-katsunobu-55b09b2]]
* ''CXP101064'', ''CXP102064'' are similar to CXP97 (''CXP971000'', ''CXP972032'', '''CXP973064''', ''CXP973F064'')
** In-Circuit-Emulator: Mitek NICE-SPC970 [[http://www.hitechfacility.co.jp/details.php?id=E0001913]]; Debug software: SVD970; Flash programmer: SFP-2
* A ''F'' inside the model name specifies if the IC contains flash memory.
** Mass-produced units don't have/use program flash memory, instead a encrypted firmware patch is stored on the data-"EEPROM"
* CXR7 series uses Sony SR11 CPU (ARM7TDMI)
** Models with public datasheet: ''CXR702080'', ''CXR702F080'', ''CXR704060''
** Maybe based on the Texas Instruments TMS470R1 series (derived from TMS470R1B512 ?)
* Prototype PS3 Syscon's:
** ''CXR713F120A'' Syscon used on (early) pre-release prototypes, e.g. [[CEB-2030]], [[DECR-1000]], [[DEH-H1001-D]], [[DEH-H1000A-E]]
** [[DEH-FH1500J-A]] with [[VERTIGO-02]] board and SW series prototype ''D79F0073''
** [[CBEH-H2001]] with [[SUR-00x#SURTEES-03|SURTEES-03]] board and SW2 series prototype ''D79F0086''
** [[DEH-ML00AK-G]] with [[MPX-001 (Prototype)]] board and SW3 series prototype ''D79F0123''
 
==== Packets, Lovely Packets ====
 
<pre>
Command              Address      Permission
w                    0xf98b0000L  0xDD0C0000
r                    0xa58c0000L  0xDD0C0000
w16                  0x2d8e0000  0xDD0C0000
r16                  0xd58e0000L  0xDD0C0000
w32                  0xed8f0000L  0xDD0C0000
r32                  0x91910000L  0xDD0C0000
w64                  0xa9920000L  0xDD0C0000
r64                  0x5d930000  0xDD0C0000
r64d                0x8f940000L  0xDD0C0000
wbe                  0x65960000  0xDD0C0000
rbe                  0xf9960000L  0xDD0C0000
boardconfig          0xc7990000L  0xDC0C0000
comm                0x19990000  0xDC0C0000
commt                0x7490200    0xDC0C0000
printmode            0xd9990000L  0xDC0C0000
eepromcheck          0x1d9a0000  0x000C0000
eeprominit          0x659a0000  0x000C0000
hdmi                0x399f0200  0xDD0C0000
xrcv                0x13530200  0xDC0C0000
bepkt                0x5d430200  0xDC0C0000
task                0x5500100    0xDD0C0000
duty                0x239b0000  0xDD0C0000
tsensor              0x79a20000  0xDD0C0000
bepgoff              0xe7a40000L  0xD00C0000
getrtc              0xf3a60000L  0xDD0C0000
rtcreset            0xbba70000L  0x000C0000
ledmode              0xba80000    0xDC0C0000
buzzpattern          0xb7a80000L  0xDC0C0000
eepcsum              0x65aa0000  0xDD0C0000
tmp                  0x69aa0000  0xDD0C0000
trp                  0x2fab0000  0xDD0C0000
hyst                0xf5ae0000L  0xDD0C0000
tshutdown            0xa1b20000L  0xDD0C0000
tzone                0xe1b50000L  0xDD0C0000
errlog              0xedb70000L  0xFF0C0000
lasterrlog          0xffb70000L  0xDD0C0000
geterrlog            0x4fb80000  0xDD0C0000
clearerrlog          0xcbb80000L  0xDD0C0000
stoplogerrtsk        0xd9b80000L  0xDD0C0000
startlogerrtsk      0xe7b80000L  0xDD0C0000
stoplogerrtoeep      0xf5b80000L  0xDD0C0000
restartlogerrtoeep  0x3b90000    0xDD0C0000
trace                0x51b90000  0xDD0C0000
disp_err            0x11590200  0xDD0C0000
clear_err            0x5b590200  0xDD0C0000
printpatch          0x4fd90000  0xDD0C0000
patchverram          0x65d90000  0xDD0C0000
patchcsum            0xf7d90000L  0xDD0C0000
patchvereep          0xb1d90000L  0xDD0C0000
portscan            0xdda0000    0xDD0C0000
powupcause          0x21b60000  0xDD0C0000
syspowdown          0xe9b60000L  0xDD0C0000
powbtnmode          0x11b90000  0xDC0C0000
dve                  0x5d990200  0xDC0C0000
fanconpolicy        0xc9bb0000L  0xDD0C0000
fanconmode          0x35bf0000  0xDD0C0000
fanconautotype      0x75c00000  0xDD0C0000
fantbl              0x87c00000L  0xDD0C0000
tshutdowntime        0x5dc90000  0xDD0C0000
fanservo            0x29bf0000  0xDD0C0000
thrm                0x1dbf0000  0xDD0C0000
fanpol              0x31ca0000  0xDD0C0000
thermfatalmode      0x3bca0000  0xDD0C0000
becount              0x7dca0000  0xDD0C0000
wmmto                0x3bcb0000  0xDC0C0000
ltstest              0x97cb0000L  0xDD0C0000
fancon              0x6dd20000  0x0D000000
powerstate          0x6fce0000  0xDD0C0000
devpm                0x53d00000  0xDD0C0000
wrsxc                0x79d20000  0xDD0C0000
rrsxc                0x13d30000  0xDD0C0000
faninictrl          0xd9d30000L  0x0D000000
therrclr            0xe5d30000L  0xDD0C0000
poll                0xe3400200L  0xDD0C0000
recv                0x35410200  0xDD0C0000
send                0x6f410200  0xDD0C0000
LS                  0x1b420200  0xDD0C0000
hversion            0x2f420200  0xDD0C0000
bstatus              0x69420200  0xDD0C0000
buzz                0xffa40000L  0xDC0C0000
diag                0xad9a0000L  0xD00C0000
xdrdiag              0x11e70100  0xF0000000
xiodiag              0x75e80100  0xF0000000
fandiag              0x1be90100  0xF0000000
osbo                0x3fea0100  0xF0000000
bestat              0x13d40000  0xFD0F0000
bringup              0x97d50000L  0xFD0F0000
shutdown            0xc5d50000L  0xFD0F0000
powersw              0xf9d50000L  0xFD0F0000
resetsw              0x5d60000    0xFC0F0000
ejectsw              0x11d60000  0xFD0F0000
thalttest            0x13d80000  0x000F0000
bsn                  0x5d80000    0xF00F0000
firmud              0x1dd60000  0xFDFF0000
hdmiid              0x1d9d0200  0xDC0F0000
hdmiid2              0x819d0200L  0xDC0F0000
version              0x5fd60000  0xFFFF0000
csum                0x87d60000L  0xFF0F0000
revision            0xe1d70000L  0xFFFF0000
cp                  0x77e00100  0xF0000000
halt                0x7e10100    0xF0000000
bootbeep            0x67ea0100  0xF0000000
scopen              0x21e10000  0xFF000000
scclose              0xefe10000L  0xFF000000
scasv2              0x7e20000    0xDD000000
scagv2              0x4fe20000  0xFF000000
</pre>

Latest revision as of 19:25, 4 November 2021

Notes[edit source]

  • The SoftID (Syscon firmware build id) of retail chips is a 1:1 mapping to the syscon model. So each syscon model does have a unique SoftID.
  • Every syscon within a series (CXR, SW, SW2, SW3) is backwards compatible, e.g. every CXR Syscon works on the COK-001, but only 202GB and newer on a COK-002.
  • The SW and the SW2 are not interchangable (because of the CEC handling which uses hardcoded HDMI stuff).
  • The actual platform configuration which defines the board on the which Syscon resides is stored in the EEPROM (CXR) or Flash data section (SW), it can be mapped to the platform id.
  • In theory even the SW(1) chips work on Mullion boards if you adapt them.

Prototype sherwoods[edit source]

The sherwood table already have a row for D79F0073, should we add a couple more rows for D79F0086 and D79F0123 ?

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