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<div style="float:right">[[File:PS4 System Storage Management - 500GB harddrive.jpg|200px|thumb|left|PS4 System Storage Management - 500GB harddrive]]</div>
<div style="float:right">[[File:PS4 System Storage Management - 500GB harddrive.jpg|200px|thumb|left|PS4 System Storage Management - 500GB harddrive]]</div>


SATA 2.5" with max height of 9.5mm<ref>Sony lists compatibility as 9.5mm height, physically a 12.5mm can also fit, though a bit snuggly. Tried it with an ancient ST9190AG 0.504" 12.80mm (measured 12.3mm) drive, including the sled as usual</ref>, minimal storage size 160GB ([http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY1BCoQwDEXv8tdFmpa2sQdw5wlkFiJdFHQQHUSQ3t3UjZNFwkse-RfWLU-pz19ErbCvaery_EvbjniBdFvHUq8gr6WgsIyn4EPCRcEHqtoxzogDDAeRDLN069jiIwrbf4WYzLMmH_yboJv3fds4lFJu 198 HDD models], [http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY1LDsMgDETvMmsUYVCAcIDueoKqiyhBKmrSRhD1o4i712STzmIs22_sDffwfT_TCI-cbyMElhSHcI4PeCmQlzCc4rSGlOE3kOxqmesW1EoWJ-b-w62Ru1AEjKWKvfoJ_gLlLEPKOXbdOo0rI07_I-RI7WMy1hwfZHOc75oWpZQf 5 SSHD models] and [http://tweakers.net/categorie/674/solid-state-drives/producten/#filter:TY1BCoUwEEPvknWRdort2AO48wSfvxDpoqAf0Y8I0rvbVlBnkSHJgxyYlzD4LvzgpMA6-6EN498vK9wBMo3Of8o1lJHpIDD1e7KaZPFRZM5kbutHuA-IbaKIOamuWeN7MfbFKFZUcmXIPhtU0T3QVDVijCc 362 SSD models] comply to that). Ofcourse if you [http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Dual_Firmware#Solutions_for_swapping_.2F_externalise_the_harddrive externalise the harddrive], (e.g. with a [[Nyko]] [[:File:Nyko_Databank_PS4_-_image2.jpg|Data Bank]]) there is a whole world of 3.5" drives that are larger in storage size and also cheaper to be gotten.
SATA 2.5" with max height of 9.5mm<ref>Sony lists compatibility as 9.5mm height, physically a 12.5mm can also fit, though a bit snuggly. Tried it with an ancient ST9190AG 0.504" 12.80mm (measured 12.3mm) drive, including the sled as usual</ref>, minimal storage size 160GB ([http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY1BCoQwDEXv8tdFmpa2sQdw5wlkFiJdFHQQHUSQ3t3UjZNFwkse-RfWLU-pz19ErbCvaery_EvbjniBdFvHUq8gr6WgsIyn4EPCRcEHqtoxzogDDAeRDLN069jiIwrbf4WYzLMmH_yboJv3fds4lFJu 198 HDD models], [http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY1LDsMgDETvMmsUYVCAcIDueoKqiyhBKmrSRhD1o4i712STzmIs22_sDffwfT_TCI-cbyMElhSHcI4PeCmQlzCc4rSGlOE3kOxqmesW1EoWJ-b-w62Ru1AEjKWKvfoJ_gLlLEPKOXbdOo0rI07_I-RI7WMy1hwfZHOc75oWpZQf 5 SSHD models] and [http://tweakers.net/categorie/674/solid-state-drives/producten/#filter:TY1BCoUwEEPvknWRdort2AO48wSfvxDpoqAf0Y8I0rvbVlBnkSHJgxyYlzD4LvzgpMA6-6EN498vK9wBMo3Of8o1lJHpIDD1e7KaZPFRZM5kbutHuA-IbaKIOamuWeN7MfbFKFZUcmXIPhtU0T3QVDVijCc 362 SSD models] comply to that). Ofcourse if you [http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Dual_Firmware#Solutions_for_swapping_.2F_externalise_the_harddrive externalise the harddrive], (e.g. with a [[Nyko]] [[:File:Nyko_Data_Bank_PS4.png|Data Bank]]) there is a whole world of 3.5" drives that are larger in storage size and also cheaper to be gotten.


SSD can be used, but it seems that on the PS4 there is even less incentive ([http://www.gtpla.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Hvx2a.png compared to PS3]) to replace the drive for a SSD, best price/performance are still 7200rpm drives or true hybrid SSHD drives
SSD can be used, but it seems that on the PS4 there is even less incentive ([http://www.gtpla.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Hvx2a.png compared to PS3]) to replace the drive for a SSD, best price/performance are still 7200rpm drives or true hybrid SSHD drives
* http://www.pcper.com/reviews/General-Tech/PlayStation-4-PS4-HDD-SSHD-and-SSD-Performance-Testing
* http://www.pcper.com/reviews/General-Tech/PlayStation-4-PS4-HDD-SSHD-and-SSD-Performance-Testing
* http://uk.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PlayStation_4_Hard_Drive_Speed_Test_Comparison
* http://uk.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PlayStation_4_Hard_Drive_Speed_Test_Comparison
* http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-is-it-worth-upgrading-your-ps4-with-an-ssd


it is unsure if TRIM is enabled by default for UFS on the PS4, but on BSD in general it can be enabled with ''tune2fs -t enable'' : http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=28004 see also : http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/ssd.html
it is unsure if TRIM is enabled by default for UFS on the PS4, but on BSD in general it can be enabled with ''tune2fs -t enable'' : http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=28004 see also : http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/ssd.html
=== Size ===
=== Size ===
The reason for the discrepancy between "real" and "reported" HD size, is because windows reports GiB as GB [http://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/10/for-the-same-file-why-windows-and-ubuntu-show-different-sizes/ See verbose explanation here], and a handy unit converter [http://wintelguy.com/gb2gib.html here.]
* the standard 500GB [[harddrive]] is actually [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk_drive#Units 465.76 GiB] as reported by Windows
* the standard 500GB [[harddrive]] is actually [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk_drive#Units 465.76 GiB] as reported by Windows
** after some [[Partitions#Partitions|splitting in 15 partitions]], a 420.12 GiB mainpartition is left for the user
** after some [[Files_on_the_PS4#Partitions|splitting in 15 partitions]], a 420.12 GiB mainpartition is left for the user
*** on that mainpartition 408 GB is useable for the user
*** on that mainpartition 408 GB is useable for the user


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* http://superuser.com/questions/99211/free-way-to-clone-hdd-to-ssdent Acronis True Image - free alternatives
* http://superuser.com/questions/99211/free-way-to-clone-hdd-to-ssdent Acronis True Image - free alternatives


==== Storage Speed ====
==== Speed comparison ====
===== Speed comparison - video =====


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(Tested: PlayStation 4 Hard Drive vs. SSD vs. Hybrid Drive)
(Tested: PlayStation 4 Hard Drive vs. SSD vs. Hybrid Drive)
===== HDD Speed - table =====
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! HDD Speed !! Stock Drive !! 1TB Hitachi Z7K1000 !! 1TB Seagate Hybrid  !! 240GB Crucial M500 SSD !! 2TB Seagate
|-
| Read Speed (Sequential/512K) || 116.5MB/s / 40.4MB/s || 132.9MB/s / 42.6MB/s || 95.9MB/s / 40.6MB/s || 191.9MB/s / 189.7MB/s || 122.1MB/s / 39.6MB/s
|-
| Write Speed (Sequential/512K) || 114.4MB/s / 40.7MB/s || 127.9MB/s / 55.7MB/s || 106.7MB/s / 62.8MB/s || 211.8MB/s / 62.7MB/s || 120.9MB/s / 42.6MB/s
|-
| Access Time || 21.1ms || 17.3ms || 6.9ms to 20.9ms || 0.06ms || 14.9ms
|-
| Gigs per GBP || - || 18.7 || 13.3 || 2.7 || 31
|-
|}
'''source:''' http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-how-to-cheaply-upgrade-your-ps4-to-2tb
===== HDD Speed - Video =====
'''
Stock HGST 500GB HDD vs OCZ Trion 100 480GB vs 1TB Seagate hybrid.'''
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OP0tgY4vmM


=== Compatibility ===
=== Compatibility ===
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{| class="wikitable sortable"
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! SKU !! Size !! Compatible !! Remarks !! width=120px; | EAN !! TweakersID !! ASIN
! SKU !! Size !! Compatible !! Remarks !! EAN !! TweakersID !! ASIN
|-
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| Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM003<br />aka Samsung HN-M201RAD || 2 TB || {{Yes}} ||  ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/411214/seagate-spinpoint-m9t-2tb/specificaties/ 411214] || [http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-Spinpoint-M9T-2TB-Festplatte/dp/B00LB5Y450/ B00LB5Y450]
| Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM003 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} ||  ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/411214/seagate-spinpoint-m9t-2tb/specificaties/ 411214] || [http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-Spinpoint-M9T-2TB-Festplatte/dp/B00LB5Y450/ B00LB5Y450]
|-
|-
| Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM004 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} ||  ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/411214/seagate-spinpoint-m9t-2tb/specificaties/ 411214] ||   
| Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM004 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} ||  ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/411214/seagate-spinpoint-m9t-2tb/specificaties/ 411214] ||   
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| Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM006 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} ||  ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/411214/seagate-spinpoint-m9t-2tb/specificaties/ 411214] ||   
| Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM006 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} ||  ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/411214/seagate-spinpoint-m9t-2tb/specificaties/ 411214] ||   
|-
|-
| Seagate Backup Plus Slim Portable Drive - STDR2000100 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || Contains Seagate Spinpoint M9T series ST2000LM003 ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/364111/seagate-backup-plus-slim-2tb-zwart.html 364111] || [http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Backup-Portable-External-STDR2000100/dp/B00FRHTSK4/ B00FRHTSK4]
| Toshiba HDTB330EK3CA || 3 TB || {{Pending}} || {{unk|USB Interface}}<!--// yes it is USB, but is it native USB? - Even if not, this "Partnumber" describes an external and portable Harddrive device. The Harddrive itself inside this has probably an another "Partnumber". It could be the Toshiba MQ03ABB since the complete external and portable device is 20.5 mm so the Toshiba MQ03ABB with his 15mm could fit inside (http://www.toshiba.eu/hard-drives/portable/canvio-basics/hdtb330ek3ca/)//--> ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/446560/toshiba-canvio-basics-3tb-zwart/specificaties/ 446560] ||  
|-
| Seagate Backup Plus Ultra Slim Portable Drive - STEH2000200 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 7636490071966 ||  ||
|-
| Seagate Mobile HDD - ST2000LM007 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || [http://www.seagate.com/products/laptop-mobile-storage/laptop-internal-drives/mobile-hdd/ 7mm Height only] ||  ||  ||
|-
| Seagate Mobile HDD - ST2000LM009 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || 7mm Height only ||  ||  ||  
|-
|-
| Seagate Mobile HDD - ST2000LM010 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || 7mm Height only ||  ||  ||
| Toshiba MQ03ABB || 3 TB || {{Pending}} || [http://toshiba.semicon-storage.com/ap-en/product/storage-products/specialty/mq03abbxxx.html 15mm thick] ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/430568/toshiba-mq03abb300-3tb/specificaties/ 430568] ||  
|-
| Toshiba HDTB330EK3CA || 3 TB || {{Pending}} || {{unk|USB Interface}}<!--// yes it is USB, but is it native USB? - internal /might be a MQ03ABB variant/ )//--> length is 11.9cm ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/446560/toshiba-canvio-basics-3tb-zwart/specificaties/ 446560] || [http://www.amazon.co.uk/Toshiba-HDTB330EK3CA-2-5-Inch-Canvio-External/dp/B00WIMBNGI B00WIMBNGI]
|-
| Toshiba MQ03ABB300 || 3 TB || {{Pending}} || [http://toshiba.semicon-storage.com/ap-en/product/storage-products/specialty/mq03abbxxx.html 15mm thick] ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/430568/toshiba-mq03abb300-3tb/specificaties/ 430568] ||  
|-
| Toshiba HDTC615XK3B1 || 1.5 TB || {{yes}} || contains MQ01'''A'''BC150 with SATA ||  ||  ||
|-
| Toshiba HDTB210XK3BA || 500 GB || {{no}} || 11.9mm length / contains MQ01'''U'''BD050 with USB ||  ||  || [http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005J7YBRW B005J7YBRW]
|-
|-
| Hitachi Travelstar 7K1000 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || 7200rpm, also PS3 suitable ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/328664 328664] ||  
| Hitachi Travelstar 7K1000 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || 7200rpm, also PS3 suitable ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/328664 328664] ||  
|-
|-
| Seagate BarraCuda ST2000LM015 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || 5400rpm, 7mm Height 128MB Cache  ||  || ||
|-
| Seagate BarraCuda ST1000LM048 || 1TB || {{Yes}} || 7mm Height only || 763649098301 || ||
|}
|}
[http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY3BCoAgEET_Zc4SrpJufkC3viA6RHgQKqIigvDf0whqD7PM7GPnwrKGwTdhhpMC2-KHOoy7Xze4CySrvKZ8hZLPQGDqz-TN66OAsZS5ox_hWii2CVLMSXXJGl1CWP8RYlJPTMaar0IW3_uqKBFjvAE =&gt;2TB HDD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner - Pricewatch link]
[http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY3BCoAgEET_Zc4SrpJufkC3viA6RHgQKqIigvDf0whqD7PM7GPnwrKGwTdhhpMC2-KHOoy7Xze4CySrvKZ8hZLPQGDqz-TN66OAsZS5ox_hWii2CVLMSXXJGl1CWP8RYlJPTMaar0IW3_uqKBFjvAE =&gt;2TB HDD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner - Pricewatch link]
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|-
! SKU !! Size !! Compatible !! Remarks !! width=120px; | EAN !! TweakersID !! ASIN
! SKU !! Size !! Compatible !! Remarks !! EAN !! TweakersID !! ASIN
|-
|-
| Seagate Laptop SSHD ST1000LM014 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 0763649042670, 7636490041228 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/331296 331296] ||  
| Seagate Laptop SSHD ST1000LM014 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 0763649042670, 7636490041228 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/331296 331296] ||  
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|-
| Seagate Laptop SSHD STBD1000400  || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || Kit || 0763649046852, 7636490045400 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/344102 344102] ||  
| Seagate Laptop SSHD STBD1000400  || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || Kit || 0763649046852, 7636490045400 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/344102 344102] ||  
|-
| Seagate SSHD STBD1000101 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || [[Seagate]] || 7636490072956 ||  ||
|-
|-
| Toshiba MQ02ABD100H || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  ||  ||  ||  
| Toshiba MQ02ABD100H || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  ||  ||  ||  
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|-
| Toshiba MQ01ABF050H || 500 GB || {{Yes}} ||  ||  ||  ||  
| Toshiba MQ01ABF050H || 500 GB || {{Yes}} ||  ||  ||  ||  
|-
| Toshiba H200 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || [http://tweakers.net/nieuws/105053/] ||  ||  ||
|-
| Toshiba H200 || 500 GB || {{Yes}} || [http://tweakers.net/nieuws/105053/] ||  ||  ||
|-
|-
| Western Digital Black-II WD1001x06xdtl || {{NA}} || {{No}} || [[Talk:Harddrive#Nonhybrids|NonHybrid]] ||  ||  ||  
| Western Digital Black-II WD1001x06xdtl || {{NA}} || {{No}} || [[Talk:Harddrive#Nonhybrids|NonHybrid]] ||  ||  ||  
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|-
| Samsung 840 EVO 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 8806085767584 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/340877/ 340877] ||  
| Samsung 840 EVO 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 8806085767584 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/340877/ 340877] ||  
|-
| Samsung 850 EVO 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 8806086523042 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/422397/ 422397] ||
|-
|-
| Samsung 850 Pro 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 0887276036304, 0887276057514, 8806086264679, 8806086338141, 8872760363044 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/398668/ 398668] ||  
| Samsung 850 Pro 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 0887276036304, 0887276057514, 8806086264679, 8806086338141, 8872760363044 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/398668/ 398668] ||  
|-
|-
| Samsung 850 EVO 2TB || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || € 860 [http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/samsung-electronics-leads-consumers-into-the-new-era-of-multi-terabyte-ssds-with-launch-of-2-tb-850-pro-and-850-evo/ press] ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/455056/ 455056] ||
| Samsung 850 EVO 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 8806086523042 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/422397/ 422397] ||  
|-
| Samsung 850 Pro 2TB || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || € 1080 [http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/samsung-electronics-leads-consumers-into-the-new-era-of-multi-terabyte-ssds-with-launch-of-2-tb-850-pro-and-850-evo/ press] ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/455116/ 455116] ||
|-
| Samsung Enterprise SSD PM863 SATA 3.84TB || 3,84TB || {{Yes}} || $2200 [http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20150720005857/en/Samsung-Unveils-Class-Data-Center-Solid-State#.VeYKks_ouM_ press] [http://www.samsung.com/us/business/support/owners/product/MZ-7LM3T8Z prod.page] ||  || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/456001/ 456001] ||  
|-
|-
| Sandisk X300 2,5" 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 6196591215948 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/434082/ 434082] ||  
| Sandisk X300 2,5" 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} ||  || 6196591215948 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/434082/ 434082] ||  
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[http://tweakers.net/categorie/674/solid-state-drives/producten/#filter:TY3BCoMwDIbf5T87sSlq7QMIO-zkcexQNIyCTqljjEnffemEbTkkfH8-kg1zGDi0nscBFms_B0a2h93C_VHSg8qwuCt3_sWwqigEg-_55G-wAqt4rR_vHFbYDVQ1Os0prSF6Krk5uaewpp1jlsQqiQ83wp5BphaLjJGuS6Nx2Z36z1FG0SdXFdW_J5Sr8vuhyUvEGN8 =&gt;1000GB SSD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner - Pricewatch link]
[http://tweakers.net/categorie/674/solid-state-drives/producten/#filter:TY3BCoMwDIbf5T87sSlq7QMIO-zkcexQNIyCTqljjEnffemEbTkkfH8-kg1zGDi0nscBFms_B0a2h93C_VHSg8qwuCt3_sWwqigEg-_55G-wAqt4rR_vHFbYDVQ1Os0prSF6Krk5uaewpp1jlsQqiQ83wp5BphaLjJGuS6Nx2Z36z1FG0SdXFdW_J5Sr8vuhyUvEGN8 =&gt;1000GB SSD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner - Pricewatch link]


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