Talk:Harddrive

Todo

Need help getting data for the different SKU models and the default harddrive they are equiped with.

There is still some conflicting data to be sorted out, e.g.:

maximum size internal drive

The maximum size of the internal harddrive that the PS3 supports is 1TB (TeraBytes) 

note: this seems untrue as there are several people posting pictures of their external to internal drive mod with a size of 2TB

Personal experience

Using Normal Mode and Recovery - when trying to install a 1.5TB 3.5" drive as internal (using an eSATA cradle)

• Using Recovery it is possible to finish the format of the harddrive until 100%. The system however fails to reboot automaticly after that and halts. When enforced to reboot, it errors out with "Wrong Harddrive".
• When trying all the other Recovery Menu options it errors out with "Harddrive Error 0x8002F281".
• When trying to boot to XMB it also errors out with "Harddrive Error 0x8002F281".
• When replacing the drive for the previous tested 1TB harddrive, it boots without errors to XMB and reports : 827GB free/931GB total

Conclusion

>1TB didn't not work.

Using Factory Service Mode - when trying to install a 1.5TB 3.5" drive as internal (using an eSATA cradle) FSM

• Second try, using Service Mode
• first replacing drive for original 120GB 2.5" and using Factory Service Mode to downgrade to lowest firmware the system can handle (2K slim -> FW 2.70)
  • Result is fine. Log showed no errors : UPDATER_LOG.TXT
• Replaced for 1.5TB 3.5" drive and do exactly the same 2.70 again
  • Result is fine. Log showed no errors : UPDATER_LOG.TXT
• Boot to XMB with Service Mode still activated
  • No problems to get into XMB, but checking System Settings > System Information shows size detection issues:

System Software  Version 2.70
IP Address       xxx.xxx.x.xxx
MAX Address      xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
Free Space       30 G

• Exit Factory Service Mode
  • Blank screen freeze when trying to boot to XMB in normal mode
• Power off and try again gives "system software was not installed correct" error
• inserted USB with 2.70 on normal location and START+SELECT button to let it reinstall
  • Preparing Update counts to 100% and then halts (does not reboot), just like in first trial.
• Manual poweroff and reboot just results in blank screen with no harddrive activity

Conclusion

>1TB didn't not work in normal or recovery mode only with FSM enabled.

Going back to the 1TB and crosschecking

• Replacing drive back to the working 1TB (has 3.55 on it) gives prompt to reinstall 2.70, doing so errors out with "Harddrive Error 0x8002F281".
• Entering Factory Service Mode with 1TB and let it reinstall via lv2diag results fine without errors: UPDATER_LOG.TXT
• Boot to XMB with Service Mode still activated
  • No problems to get into XMB, but checking System Settings > System Information shows size detection issues (the '30 G' seems to be FSM related):

System Software  Version 2.70
IP Address       xxx.xxx.x.xxx
MAX Address      xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
Free Space       30 G

• Exit Factory Service Mode
• No problems to get into XMB, and checking System Settings > System Information shows no size detection issues:

System Software  Version 2.70
IP Address       xxx.xxx.x.xxx
MAX Address      xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
Free Space       827GB / 931GB

Conclusion

<1TB works fine in all modi.

maximum size external drive

External HDD : You can format it to any size up to 8TB

note: this seems untrue, because when >2TB drives have hit the market, no screenshots of >2TB external storage are known

• sources used: source: http://www.edepot.com/playstation3.html#PS3_Harddrive and euss temp blog
• todo: flush out errors, merging in a readable format

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AES-256-CBC versus AES-256-XTS

There is conflicting mention of sources for the algo/mode used for GameOS encryption.

Fact:

• Sony/IBM loves AES
• 256bit based
• sectorsize 512 bytes (4096 bits)
• blockcipher
• recurring patterns are seen

Reference:

• CBC - Cipher-block_chaining mode
• XTS - XEX-based Tweaked CodeBook mode

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Experimental Tables

A collection of productsheets/datasheets renamed and ordered by series http://www.sendspace.com/file/yi4zi6 (fujitsu series are missing)

All HDD models are 2.5" and 9.5 milimeters height max, with 1 platter, rotating at 5.400 rpm with 512 bytes per sector

Brand	Series	Model	Capacity	Rotation Speed (Platters/Heads)	Buffer	Interface		Seek Speeds					Power Requirements					Operating Temp.	Noise Max	Used in PS3 Models
								tracks	latency	read	write		startup	idle	read	write
Fujitsu	MHW	MHW2040BH	40 GB	5400rpm (1/1)	8 MB	SATA-150		1.5 ms	5.56 ms	12 ms	14 ms		1.0 A	0.60 W	1.9 W	1.9 W		55 ºC	2.0 bels	CECHJxx
	MHZ	MHZ2080BH	80 GB	5400rpm (1/1)	8 MB	SATA-300		1.5 ms	5.56 ms	12 ms	14 ms		1.0 A	0.60 W	1.9 W	1.9 W		55 ºC	2.4 bels	CECHKxx, CECHLxx
		MHZ2160BH	160 GB	5400rpm (1/2)	8 MB	SATA-300		1.5 ms	?.?? ms	?? ms	?? ms		1.0 A	0.60 W	2.1 W	2.1 W		55 ºC	2.0 bels	CECHPxx, CECHQxx
Hitachi	Travelstar 5K160	HTS541640J9SA00	40 GB	5400rpm (1/1)	8 MB	SATA-150		2.2 ms	5.50 ms	14 ms	15 ms		1.0 A	0.85 W	1.8 W	1.8 W		55 ºC	2.7 bels	CECHHxx
	Travelstar 5K250	HTS542580K9SA00	80 GB	5400rpm (1/2)	8 MB	SATA-150		2.2 ms	5.50 ms	14 ms	15 ms		1.0 A	0.85 W	1.8 W	1.8 W		55 ºC	2.7 bels	CECHLxx
	Travelstar 5K500	HTS545012B9SA00	120 GB	5400rpm (1/1)	8 MB	SATA-150		2.2 ms	5.50 ms	14 ms	15 ms		0.9 A	0.80 W	1.4 W	1.4 W		55 ºC	2.9 bels	CECH-20xxA
	Travelstar Z5K500	HTS545050A7E380	500 GB	5400rpm (1/2)	8 MB	SATA-300		2.2 ms	5.50 ms	13 ms	13 ms		0.9 A	0.55 W	1.6 W	1.6 W		60 ºC	2.1 bels	CECH-40xxC
Seagate	Momentus 5400.2	ST96812AS	60 GB	5400rpm (1/2)	8 MB	SATA-150		1.5 ms	5.56 ms	12 ms	14 ms		1.1 A	0.99 W	1.9 W	2.3 W		55 ºC	3.1 bels	CECHAxx, CECHCxx
	Momentus 5400.3	ST980811AS	80 GB	5400rpm (1/2)	8 MB	SATA-150		1.5 ms	5.56 ms	11 ms	13 ms		1.0 A	0.75 W	1.9 W	1.8 W		60 ºC	3.2 bels	CECHExx
	LD25 SATA	ST920217AS	20 GB	5400rpm (1/1)	2 MB	SATA-150		2.0 ms	5.60 ms	16 ms	16 ms		1.0 A	?.?? W	2.3 W	2.3 W		55 ºC	2.7 bels	CECHBxx
		ST9402115AS	40 GB	5400rpm (1/2)	2 MB	SATA-150		2.0 ms	5.60 ms	16 ms	16 ms		1.0 A	2.00 W	2.3 W	2.3 W		55 ºC	2.7 bels	CECHGxx, CECHHxx
	LD25 5400.2	ST940210AS	40 GB	5400rpm (1/2)	2 MB	SATA-150		1.5 ms	5.60 ms	15 ms	15 ms		1.0 A	2.50 W	2.3 W	2.3 W		60 ºC	2.6 bels	CECHJxx
Toshiba	MKxx52GSX	MK8052GSX	80 GB	5400rpm (1/1)	8 MB	SATA-300		2.0 ms	?.?? ms	12 ms	12 ms		0.9 A	0.85 W	2.0 W	2.0 W		55 ºC	25 dBA	CECHLxx
		MK1652GSX	160 GB	5400rpm (1/2)	8 MB	SATA-300		2.0 ms	?.?? ms	12 ms	12 ms		0.9 A	0.85 W	2.0 W	2.0 W		55 ºC	25 dBA	CECHPxx
	MKxx55GSX	MK1255GSX	120 GB	5400rpm (1/1)	8 MB	SATA-300		2.0 ms	5.55 ms	12 ms	12 ms		0.9 A	0.85 W	1.4 W	1.4 W		55 ºC	2.0 bels	CECH-20xxA
		MK2555GSX	250 GB	5400rpm (1/2)	8 MB	SATA-300		2.0 ms	5.55 ms	12 ms	12 ms		0.9 A	0.85 W	1.4 W	1.4 W		55 ºC	2.0 bels	CECH-20xxB
	MKxx65GSX	MK1665GSX	160 GB	5400rpm (1/1)	8 MB	SATA-300		2.0 ms	?.?? ms	12 ms	12 ms		0.9 A	0.75 W	1.5 W	1.5 W		55 ºC	20 dBA	CECH-25xxA
		MK3265GSX	320 GB	5400rpm (1/2)	8 MB	SATA-300		2.0 ms	?.?? ms	12 ms	12 ms		0.9 A	0.75 W	1.5 W	1.5 W		55 ºC	20 dBA	CECH-25xxB
	MKxx76GSX	MK1676GSX	160 GB	5400rpm (1/1)	8 MB	SATA-300		2.0 ms	5.55 ms	12 ms	12 ms		0.9 A	0.55 W	1.5 W	1.5 W		55 ºC	20 dBA	CECH-30xxA
		MK3276GSX	320 GB	5400rpm (1/2)	8 MB	SATA-300		2.0 ms	5.55 ms	12 ms	12 ms		0.9 A	0.55 W	1.5 W	1.5 W		55 ºC	20 dBA	CECH-30xxB

• Meassuring units notes
  • Watts = Amps * volts (or... Amps = Watts / Volts)
  • There is no conversion formula between "bels" (sound power) and "dBA" (sound pressure)... are different meassure concepts and cant be compared

• PS3 models missing in the table:
  • CECHMxx 80GB <--- Toshiba MK8052GSX, or fujitsu MHZ2080BH, or hitachi HTS542580K9SA00 ?
  • CECH-21xxA 120GB <--- toshiba MK1255GSX ?
  • CECH-21xxB 250GB <--- toshiba MK2555GSX ?
  • CECH-25xxA 120GB <--- toshiba MK1255GSX ?
  • CECH-25xxB 250GB <--- toshiba MK2555GSX ?
  • CECH-40xxA 12GB <--- Flash storage NAND ?
  • CECH-40xxB 250GB <--- hitachi Travelstar (Z5K500 series) - HTS545025A7E380 (1 head), or toshiba MK2555GSX (old) ?

Speed Tests (PC)

Brand	Series	Model	Windows															Linux
			[HDtune]						[HDtach]				[ATTO]			[PassMark]		[hdparm -Tt]
			Min. (MB/s)	Max. (MB/s)	Average (MB/s)	Access (ms)	Burst (MB/s)	Link	Average (MB/s)	Burst (MB/s)	Access (ms)	Link	Write (MB/s)	Read (MB/s)	Link	Score (rating)	Link	Cache read (MB/s)	Disk read (MB/s)	Link
Fujitsu	MHW	MHW2040BH	14.3	46.1	34.3	17.7	100	[1]	28.2	28.5	21.8	[1]			N/A	215	[1]			N/A
	MHZ	MHZ2080BH	13.6	61.8	46.0	18.3	72.2	?				N/A			N/A	324	[1]			N/A
		MHZ2160BH	33.4 20.6 15.4 31.7 6.7	68.2 26.2 63.4 63.1 63.5	54.3 24.9 50.4 50.5 46.1	17.2 17.9 17.4 17.3 19.3	75.2 20.5 75.7 75.2 71.5	[1] [2] [3] [4] [5]	57.3	77.3	17.3	[1]	66444	64450	[1]	337	[1]			N/A
Hitachi	Travelstar 5K160	HTS541640J9SA00	15.2	48.7	38.8	17.1	91.3	[1]	40.5	116.3	17.1	[1]			N/A	254	[1]			N/A
	Travelstar 5K250	HTS542580K9SA00	22.1	44.3	34.4	17.4	77.0	?	36.0	?	16.9	?			N/A	247	[1]			N/A
	Travelstar 5K500	HTS545012B9SA00	36.5	79.2	62.0	20.2	99.9	?				N/A			N/A	377	[1]			N/A
	Travelstar Z5K500	HTS545050A7E380	45.6	103.5	80	19.9	137.7	[1]				N/A			N/A	646	[1]			N/A
Seagate	Momentus 5400.2	ST96812AS	12.9	40.2	32.2	15.8	83.4	[1]				N/A			N/A	235	[1]			N/A
	Momentus 5400.3	ST980811AS	20.9	41.8	33.1	15.9	89.4	[1]				N/A			N/A	236	[1]			N/A
	LD25 SATA	ST920217AS	2.0	30.9	23,9	21.0	100.9	[1]				N/A			N/A	167	[1]			N/A
		ST9402115AS						N/A				N/A			N/A	186	[1]			N/A
	LD25 5400.2	ST940210AS	21.0	30.6	27.2	18.5	22.8	?				N/A			N/A	230	[1]			N/A
Toshiba	MKxx52GSX	MK8052GSX	6.6 9.7	61.2 27.5	46.0 24.3	18.1 19.1	87.3 24.7	[1] [2]				N/A			N/A	323	[1]			N/A
		MK1652GSX	16.9 31.2 20.5	61.8 61.8 61.8	49.5 50.2 47.2	18.1 18.7 18.1	73.0 73.3 76.7	[1] [2] ?	50.6	151.8	18.1	?	57604	61077	?	326	[1]			N/A
	MKxx55GSX	MK1255GSX	24.8	72.4	52.9	17.6	74.3	[1]				N/A			N/A	458	[1]			N/A
		MK2555GSX	26.3	76.4	40.9	19.5	116.5	[1]				N/A			N/A	402	[1]			N/A
	MKxx65GSX	MK1665GSX	45.9	93.8	74.6	16.8	203.6	[1]	77.3	242.6	16.7	[1]	97969	97259	[1]	518	[1]			N/A
		MK3265GSX	43.5	88.0	67.8	17.1	184.5	[1]				N/A	88446	76586	[1]	476	[1]			N/A
	MKxx76GSX	MK1676GSX	46.0	96.7	76.6	16.2	206.6	?				N/A			N/A	514	[1]			N/A
		MK3276GSX	23.7	87.7	65.3	17.6	89.2	[1]				N/A			N/A	519	[1]			N/A

Speed Tests (PS3)

Brand	Series	Model	Linux			GameOs
			[hdparm -Tt]			N/A
			Cache read (MB/s)	Disk read (MB/s)	Link
Fujitsu	MHW	MHW2040BH			N/A
	MHZ	MHZ2080BH			N/A
		MHZ2160BH			N/A
Hitachi	Travelstar 5K160	HTS541640J9SA00			N/A
	Travelstar 5K250	HTS542580K9SA00			N/A
	Travelstar 5K500	HTS545012B9SA00			N/A
	Travelstar Z5K500	HTS545050A7E380			N/A
Seagate	Momentus 5400.2	ST96812AS			N/A
	Momentus 5400.3	ST980811AS			N/A
	LD25 SATA	ST920217AS			N/A
		ST9402115AS			N/A
	LD25 5400.2	ST940210AS			N/A
Toshiba	MKxx52GSX	MK8052GSX			N/A
		MK1652GSX			N/A
	MKxx55GSX	MK1255GSX			N/A
		MK2555GSX			N/A
	MKxx65GSX	MK1665GSX			N/A
		MK3265GSX			N/A
	MKxx76GSX	MK1676GSX			N/A
		MK3276GSX			N/A