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PS4 System Storage Management - 500GB harddrive

SATA 2.5" with max height of 9.5mm, minimal storage size 160GB (198 HDD models and 336 SSD models comply to that). Ofcourse if you externalise the harddrive there is a whole world of 3.5" drives that are larger in storage size and also cheaper to be gotten.

SSD can be used, but it seems that on the PS4 there is even less incentive (compared to PS3) to replace the drive for a SSD, best price/performance are still 7200rpm drives.

in this respect, it would be interesting to see the performance of the Western Digital Black-II WD1001x06xdtl which has 1TB of platter storage and 120GB of NAND SSD storage (which will not work since the PS4 will not boot properly and it displays a error message that the Operating System needs a Harddrive with 160 GB of free space at least - and it seems that this Harddrive would be totally insufficient even when the SSD part, which it seems that the PS4 has access for it, would have 160 GB or even more of free space. The PS4 is not able to access the 1 TB of space from the HDD part, so you would not have any space advantage. Even if it would have access to both parts, how it can manage both parts when it needs to create 15 Partitions for running properly (15 Partitions distributed on the SSD and HDD together)? It's a similar situation when you want to run this Harddrive on a normal Computer before you installed a operating System. Any Operating System detects the HDD part only and you can use the SSD part only after installing several drivers.).

it is unsure if TRIM is enabled by default for UFS on the PS4, but on BSD in general it can be enabled with tune2fs -t enable : http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=28004 see also : http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/ssd.html

Size

the standard 500GB harddrive is actually 465.76 GiB as reported by Windows
- after some splitting in 15 partitions, a 420.12 GiB mainpartition is left for the user
  - on that mainpartition 408 GB is useable for the user

Replacing the harddrive

Replacing the drive does not void warranty and can be done this way:

PS4 harddrive - image 01
PS4 harddrive - image 02
PS4 harddrive - image 03

Source: https://support.us.playstation.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5107/kw/ps4%20harddrive

Migrating / copy original data

Acronis True Image, EASEUS Disk Copy, Clonezilla, Paragon Backup & Recovery, Ghost, Gparted etc. can be used to copy 1:1 the original to the replacement.

http://superuser.com/questions/99211/free-way-to-clone-hdd-to-ssdent Acronis True Image - free alternatives

Speed comparison

(Tested: PlayStation 4 Hard Drive vs. SSD vs. Hybrid Drive)

Maximum capacity

PS4 System Storage Management - 2000GB Harddrive

Harddrives, with 2TB of space, which fits in the PS4 without modding the case (like explained at the top of this page)

SKU	Compatible	Min. FW Required	Remarks	Tweakers	ASIN
ST2000LM003	Yes	1.750.000	1.77 TB available	[1]	B00LB5Y450
ST2000LM004	Yes	?
ST2000LM005	No		USB Interface
ST2000LM006	Yes	?

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 * http://uk.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PlayStation_4_Hard_Drive_Speed_Test_Comparison
-in this respect, it would be interesting to see the performance of the Western Digital Black-II WD1001x06xdtl which has 1TB of platter storage and 120GB of NAND SSD storage (which will not work since the PS4 will not boot properly and it displays a error message that the [[System Firmware|Operating System]] needs a [[Harddrive]] with 160 GB of free space at least - and it seems that this [[Harddrive]] would be totally insufficient even when the SSD part, which it seems that the PS4 has access for it, would have 160 GB or even more of free space. The PS4 is not able to access the 1 TB of space from the HDD part, so you would not have any space advantage. Even if it would have access to both parts, how it can manage both parts when it needs to create [[Files on the PS4#Partitions|15 Partitions]] for running properly (15 Partitions distributed on the SSD and HDD together)? It's a similar situation when you want to run this [[Harddrive]] on a normal Computer '''before you installed a operating System'''. Any Operating System detects the HDD part only and you can use the SSD part only after installing several drivers.). <!--// which is another insufficient offer so long you need to install the drivers on the slower HDD part and you would need to copy the Operating System to the SSD part ;( //-->
+in this respect, it would be interesting to see the performance of the Western Digital Black-II WD1001x06xdtl which has 1TB of platter storage and 120GB of NAND SSD storage (which will not work since the PS4 will not boot properly and it displays a error message that the [[System Firmware|Operating System]] needs a [[Harddrive]] with 160 GB of free space at least - and it seems that this [[Harddrive]] would be totally insufficient even when the SSD part, which it seems that the PS4 has access for it, would have 160 GB or even more of free space. The PS4 is not able to access the 1 TB of space from the HDD part, so you would not have any space advantage. Even if it would have access to both parts, how it can manage both parts when it needs to create [[Files on the PS4#Partitions|15 Partitions]] for running properly (15 Partitions distributed on the SSD and HDD together)? It's a similar situation when you want to run this [[Harddrive]] on a normal Computer '''before you installed a operating System'''. Any Operating System detects the HDD part only and you can use the SSD part only after installing several drivers.). <!--// which is another insufficient offer so long you need to install the drivers on the slower HDD part and you would need to copy the Operating System to the SSD part ;( (sure, for a Computer you have endless opportunities and it's probably very easy to create custom drivers on a open system, compared to a (still?) closed system like the PS4 (the answer would be probably to visit Antarctica and feeding the penguins :)) //-->
 it is unsure if TRIM is enabled by default for UFS on the PS4, but on BSD in general it can be enabled with ''tune2fs -t enable'' : http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=28004 see also : http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/ssd.html

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