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<div style="float:right">[[File:PS4 System Storage Management - 500GB harddrive.jpg|200px|thumb|left|PS4 System Storage Management - 500GB harddrive]]</div> | <div style="float:right">[[File:PS4 System Storage Management - 500GB harddrive.jpg|200px|thumb|left|PS4 System Storage Management - 500GB harddrive]]</div> | ||
SATA 2.5" with max height of 9.5mm<ref>Sony lists compatibility as 9.5mm height, physically a 12.5mm can also fit, though a bit snuggly. Tried it with an ancient ST9190AG 0.504" 12.80mm (measured 12.3mm) drive, including the sled as usual</ref>, minimal storage size 160GB ([http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY1BCoQwDEXv8tdFmpa2sQdw5wlkFiJdFHQQHUSQ3t3UjZNFwkse-RfWLU-pz19ErbCvaery_EvbjniBdFvHUq8gr6WgsIyn4EPCRcEHqtoxzogDDAeRDLN069jiIwrbf4WYzLMmH_yboJv3fds4lFJu 198 HDD models], [http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY1LDsMgDETvMmsUYVCAcIDueoKqiyhBKmrSRhD1o4i712STzmIs22_sDffwfT_TCI-cbyMElhSHcI4PeCmQlzCc4rSGlOE3kOxqmesW1EoWJ-b-w62Ru1AEjKWKvfoJ_gLlLEPKOXbdOo0rI07_I-RI7WMy1hwfZHOc75oWpZQf 5 SSHD models] and [http://tweakers.net/categorie/674/solid-state-drives/producten/#filter:TY1BCoUwEEPvknWRdort2AO48wSfvxDpoqAf0Y8I0rvbVlBnkSHJgxyYlzD4LvzgpMA6-6EN498vK9wBMo3Of8o1lJHpIDD1e7KaZPFRZM5kbutHuA-IbaKIOamuWeN7MfbFKFZUcmXIPhtU0T3QVDVijCc 362 SSD models] comply to that). Ofcourse if you [http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Dual_Firmware#Solutions_for_swapping_.2F_externalise_the_harddrive externalise the harddrive], (e.g. with a [[Nyko]] | SATA 2.5" with max height of 9.5mm<ref>Sony lists compatibility as 9.5mm height, physically a 12.5mm can also fit, though a bit snuggly. Tried it with an ancient ST9190AG 0.504" 12.80mm (measured 12.3mm) drive, including the sled as usual</ref>, minimal storage size 160GB ([http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY1BCoQwDEXv8tdFmpa2sQdw5wlkFiJdFHQQHUSQ3t3UjZNFwkse-RfWLU-pz19ErbCvaery_EvbjniBdFvHUq8gr6WgsIyn4EPCRcEHqtoxzogDDAeRDLN069jiIwrbf4WYzLMmH_yboJv3fds4lFJu 198 HDD models], [http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY1LDsMgDETvMmsUYVCAcIDueoKqiyhBKmrSRhD1o4i712STzmIs22_sDffwfT_TCI-cbyMElhSHcI4PeCmQlzCc4rSGlOE3kOxqmesW1EoWJ-b-w62Ru1AEjKWKvfoJ_gLlLEPKOXbdOo0rI07_I-RI7WMy1hwfZHOc75oWpZQf 5 SSHD models] and [http://tweakers.net/categorie/674/solid-state-drives/producten/#filter:TY1BCoUwEEPvknWRdort2AO48wSfvxDpoqAf0Y8I0rvbVlBnkSHJgxyYlzD4LvzgpMA6-6EN498vK9wBMo3Of8o1lJHpIDD1e7KaZPFRZM5kbutHuA-IbaKIOamuWeN7MfbFKFZUcmXIPhtU0T3QVDVijCc 362 SSD models] comply to that). Ofcourse if you [http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Dual_Firmware#Solutions_for_swapping_.2F_externalise_the_harddrive externalise the harddrive], (e.g. with a [[Nyko]] [[:File:Nyko_Databank_PS4_-_image2.jpg|Data Bank]]) there is a whole world of 3.5" drives that are larger in storage size and also cheaper to be gotten. | ||
SSD can be used, but it seems that on the PS4 there is even less incentive ([http://www.gtpla.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Hvx2a.png compared to PS3]) to replace the drive for a SSD, best price/performance are still 7200rpm drives or true hybrid SSHD drives | SSD can be used, but it seems that on the PS4 there is even less incentive ([http://www.gtpla.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Hvx2a.png compared to PS3]) to replace the drive for a SSD, best price/performance are still 7200rpm drives or true hybrid SSHD drives | ||
* http://www.pcper.com/reviews/General-Tech/PlayStation-4-PS4-HDD-SSHD-and-SSD-Performance-Testing | * http://www.pcper.com/reviews/General-Tech/PlayStation-4-PS4-HDD-SSHD-and-SSD-Performance-Testing | ||
* http://uk.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PlayStation_4_Hard_Drive_Speed_Test_Comparison | * http://uk.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PlayStation_4_Hard_Drive_Speed_Test_Comparison | ||
* http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-is-it-worth-upgrading-your-ps4-with-an-ssd | |||
it is unsure if TRIM is enabled by default for UFS on the PS4, but on BSD in general it can be enabled with ''tune2fs -t enable'' : http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=28004 see also : http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/ssd.html | it is unsure if TRIM is enabled by default for UFS on the PS4, but on BSD in general it can be enabled with ''tune2fs -t enable'' : http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=28004 see also : http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/ssd.html | ||
=== Size === | === Size === | ||
The reason for the discrepancy between "real" and "reported" HD size, is because windows reports GiB as GB [http://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/10/for-the-same-file-why-windows-and-ubuntu-show-different-sizes/ See verbose explanation here], and a handy unit converter [http://wintelguy.com/gb2gib.html here.] | |||
* the standard 500GB [[harddrive]] is actually [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk_drive#Units 465.76 GiB] as reported by Windows | * the standard 500GB [[harddrive]] is actually [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk_drive#Units 465.76 GiB] as reported by Windows | ||
** after some [[ | ** after some [[Partitions#Partitions|splitting in 15 partitions]], a 420.12 GiB mainpartition is left for the user | ||
*** on that mainpartition 408 GB is useable for the user | *** on that mainpartition 408 GB is useable for the user | ||
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| 4 TB || 3725.29 GiB || || 3579 GiB || 146.29 GiB || 3578 GiB | | 4 TB || 3725.29 GiB || || 3579 GiB || 146.29 GiB || 3578 GiB | ||
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| 5 TB || 4656.61 GiB || || || || | |||
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| 6 TB || 5587.935 GiB || || 5390 GiB || 197.935 GiB || 5389 GiB | | 6 TB || 5587.935 GiB || || 5390 GiB || 197.935 GiB || 5389 GiB | ||
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| 7 TB || 6519.26 GiB || || || || | |||
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| 8 TB || 7450.581 GiB || || || || | | 8 TB || 7450.581 GiB || || || || | ||
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| 9 TB || 8381.9 GiB || || || || | |||
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| 10 TB || 9313.226 GiB || || || || | | 10 TB || 9313.226 GiB || || || || | ||
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| 11 TB || 10244.5 GiB || || || || | |||
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| 12 TB || 11175.871 GiB || || || || | | 12 TB || 11175.871 GiB || || || || | ||
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* http://superuser.com/questions/99211/free-way-to-clone-hdd-to-ssdent Acronis True Image - free alternatives | * http://superuser.com/questions/99211/free-way-to-clone-hdd-to-ssdent Acronis True Image - free alternatives | ||
==== Speed comparison ==== | ==== Storage Speed ==== | ||
===== Speed comparison - video ===== | |||
{{#ev:youtube|HGjSJwlHK6M}} | {{#ev:youtube|HGjSJwlHK6M}} | ||
(Tested: PlayStation 4 Hard Drive vs. SSD vs. Hybrid Drive) | (Tested: PlayStation 4 Hard Drive vs. SSD vs. Hybrid Drive) | ||
===== HDD Speed - table ===== | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|- | |||
! HDD Speed !! Stock Drive !! 1TB Hitachi Z7K1000 !! 1TB Seagate Hybrid !! 240GB Crucial M500 SSD !! 2TB Seagate | |||
|- | |||
| Read Speed (Sequential/512K) || 116.5MB/s / 40.4MB/s || 132.9MB/s / 42.6MB/s || 95.9MB/s / 40.6MB/s || 191.9MB/s / 189.7MB/s || 122.1MB/s / 39.6MB/s | |||
|- | |||
| Write Speed (Sequential/512K) || 114.4MB/s / 40.7MB/s || 127.9MB/s / 55.7MB/s || 106.7MB/s / 62.8MB/s || 211.8MB/s / 62.7MB/s || 120.9MB/s / 42.6MB/s | |||
|- | |||
| Access Time || 21.1ms || 17.3ms || 6.9ms to 20.9ms || 0.06ms || 14.9ms | |||
|- | |||
| Gigs per GBP || - || 18.7 || 13.3 || 2.7 || 31 | |||
|- | |||
|} | |||
'''source:''' http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-how-to-cheaply-upgrade-your-ps4-to-2tb | |||
===== HDD Speed - Video ===== | |||
''' | |||
Stock HGST 500GB HDD vs OCZ Trion 100 480GB vs 1TB Seagate hybrid.''' | |||
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OP0tgY4vmM | |||
=== Compatibility === | === Compatibility === | ||
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==== HDD | ==== =>2TB HDD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner ==== | ||
Harddrives, with =>2 TB of space, which fits inside the PS4 without modding the case (like explained at the top of this page) | Harddrives, with =>2 TB of space, which fits inside the PS4 without modding the case (like explained at the top of this page) | ||
{| class="wikitable sortable" | {| class="wikitable sortable" | ||
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! SKU !! Size !! Compatible !! Remarks !! EAN !! TweakersID !! ASIN | ! SKU !! Size !! Compatible !! Remarks !! width=120px; | EAN !! TweakersID !! ASIN | ||
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| Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM003 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/411214/seagate-spinpoint-m9t-2tb/specificaties/ 411214] || [http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-Spinpoint-M9T-2TB-Festplatte/dp/B00LB5Y450/ B00LB5Y450] | | Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM003<br />aka Samsung HN-M201RAD || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/411214/seagate-spinpoint-m9t-2tb/specificaties/ 411214] || [http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-Spinpoint-M9T-2TB-Festplatte/dp/B00LB5Y450/ B00LB5Y450] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM004 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/411214/seagate-spinpoint-m9t-2tb/specificaties/ 411214] || | | Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM004 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/411214/seagate-spinpoint-m9t-2tb/specificaties/ 411214] || | ||
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| Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM006 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/411214/seagate-spinpoint-m9t-2tb/specificaties/ 411214] || | | Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM006 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/411214/seagate-spinpoint-m9t-2tb/specificaties/ 411214] || | ||
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| Toshiba MQ03ABB || 3 TB || {{Pending}} || [http://toshiba.semicon-storage.com/ap-en/product/storage-products/specialty/mq03abbxxx.html 15mm thick] || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/430568/toshiba-mq03abb300-3tb/specificaties/ 430568] || | | Seagate Backup Plus Slim Portable Drive - STDR2000100 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || Contains Seagate Spinpoint M9T series ST2000LM003 || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/364111/seagate-backup-plus-slim-2tb-zwart.html 364111] || [http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Backup-Portable-External-STDR2000100/dp/B00FRHTSK4/ B00FRHTSK4] | ||
|- | |||
| Seagate Backup Plus Ultra Slim Portable Drive - STEH2000200 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || || 7636490071966 || || | |||
|- | |||
| Seagate Mobile HDD - ST2000LM007 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || [http://www.seagate.com/products/laptop-mobile-storage/laptop-internal-drives/mobile-hdd/ 7mm Height only] || || || | |||
|- | |||
| Seagate Mobile HDD - ST2000LM009 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || 7mm Height only || || || | |||
|- | |||
| Seagate Mobile HDD - ST2000LM010 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || 7mm Height only || || || | |||
|- | |||
| Toshiba HDTB330EK3CA || 3 TB || {{Pending}} || {{unk|USB Interface}}<!--// yes it is USB, but is it native USB? - internal /might be a MQ03ABB variant/ )//--> length is 11.9cm || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/446560/toshiba-canvio-basics-3tb-zwart/specificaties/ 446560] || [http://www.amazon.co.uk/Toshiba-HDTB330EK3CA-2-5-Inch-Canvio-External/dp/B00WIMBNGI B00WIMBNGI] | |||
|- | |||
| Toshiba MQ03ABB300 || 3 TB || {{Pending}} || [http://toshiba.semicon-storage.com/ap-en/product/storage-products/specialty/mq03abbxxx.html 15mm thick] || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/430568/toshiba-mq03abb300-3tb/specificaties/ 430568] || | |||
|- | |||
| Toshiba HDTC615XK3B1 || 1.5 TB || {{yes}} || contains MQ01'''A'''BC150 with SATA || || || | |||
|- | |||
| Toshiba HDTB210XK3BA || 500 GB || {{no}} || 11.9mm length / contains MQ01'''U'''BD050 with USB || || || [http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005J7YBRW B005J7YBRW] | |||
|- | |- | ||
| Hitachi Travelstar 7K1000 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || 7200rpm, also PS3 suitable || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/328664 328664] || | | Hitachi Travelstar 7K1000 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || 7200rpm, also PS3 suitable || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/328664 328664] || | ||
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| Seagate BarraCuda ST2000LM015 || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || 5400rpm, 7mm Height 128MB Cache || || || | |||
|- | |||
| Seagate BarraCuda ST1000LM048 || 1TB || {{Yes}} || 7mm Height only || 763649098301 || || | |||
|} | |} | ||
[http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY3BCoAgEET_Zc4SrpJufkC3viA6RHgQKqIigvDf0whqD7PM7GPnwrKGwTdhhpMC2-KHOoy7Xze4CySrvKZ8hZLPQGDqz-TN66OAsZS5ox_hWii2CVLMSXXJGl1CWP8RYlJPTMaar0IW3_uqKBFjvAE =>2TB HDD | [http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY3BCoAgEET_Zc4SrpJufkC3viA6RHgQKqIigvDf0whqD7PM7GPnwrKGwTdhhpMC2-KHOoy7Xze4CySrvKZ8hZLPQGDqz-TN66OAsZS5ox_hWii2CVLMSXXJGl1CWP8RYlJPTMaar0IW3_uqKBFjvAE =>2TB HDD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner - Pricewatch link] | ||
==== Hybrid SSHD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner ==== | ==== Hybrid SSHD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner ==== | ||
{| class="wikitable sortable" | {| class="wikitable sortable" | ||
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! SKU !! Size !! Compatible !! Remarks !! EAN !! TweakersID !! ASIN | ! SKU !! Size !! Compatible !! Remarks !! width=120px; | EAN !! TweakersID !! ASIN | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Seagate Laptop SSHD ST1000LM014 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || || 0763649042670, 7636490041228 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/331296 331296] || | | Seagate Laptop SSHD ST1000LM014 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || || 0763649042670, 7636490041228 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/331296 331296] || | ||
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| Seagate Laptop SSHD STBD1000400 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || Kit || 0763649046852, 7636490045400 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/344102 344102] || | | Seagate Laptop SSHD STBD1000400 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || Kit || 0763649046852, 7636490045400 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/344102 344102] || | ||
|- | |||
| Seagate SSHD STBD1000101 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || [[Seagate]] || 7636490072956 || || | |||
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| Toshiba MQ02ABD100H || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || || || || | | Toshiba MQ02ABD100H || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || || || || | ||
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| Toshiba MQ01ABF050H || 500 GB || {{Yes}} || || || || | | Toshiba MQ01ABF050H || 500 GB || {{Yes}} || || || || | ||
|- | |||
| Toshiba H200 || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || [http://tweakers.net/nieuws/105053/] || || || | |||
|- | |||
| Toshiba H200 || 500 GB || {{Yes}} || [http://tweakers.net/nieuws/105053/] || || || | |||
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| Western Digital Black-II WD1001x06xdtl || {{NA}} || {{No}} || [[Talk:Harddrive#Nonhybrids|NonHybrid]] || || || | | Western Digital Black-II WD1001x06xdtl || {{NA}} || {{No}} || [[Talk:Harddrive#Nonhybrids|NonHybrid]] || || || | ||
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[http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY1LDsMgDETvMmsUYVCAcIDueoKqiyhBKmrSRhD1o4i712STzmIs22_sDffwfT_TCI-cbyMElhSHcI4PeCmQlzCc4rSGlOE3kOxqmesW1EoWJ-b-w62Ru1AEjKWKvfoJ_gLlLEPKOXbdOo0rI07_I-RI7WMy1hwfZHOc75oWpZQf Hybrid SSHD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner - Pricewatch link] | [http://tweakers.net/categorie/50/interne-harde-schijven/producten/#filter:TY1LDsMgDETvMmsUYVCAcIDueoKqiyhBKmrSRhD1o4i712STzmIs22_sDffwfT_TCI-cbyMElhSHcI4PeCmQlzCc4rSGlOE3kOxqmesW1EoWJ-b-w62Ru1AEjKWKvfoJ_gLlLEPKOXbdOo0rI07_I-RI7WMy1hwfZHOc75oWpZQf Hybrid SSHD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner - Pricewatch link] | ||
==== SSD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner ==== | ==== =>1TB SSD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner ==== | ||
{| class="wikitable sortable" | {| class="wikitable sortable" | ||
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! SKU !! Size !! Compatible !! Remarks !! EAN !! TweakersID !! ASIN | ! SKU !! Size !! Compatible !! Remarks !! width=120px; | EAN !! TweakersID !! ASIN | ||
|- | |||
| Adata Premier Pro SP610 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || || 4712366960336 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/412687/ 412687] || | |||
|- | |||
| Adata Premier Pro SP910 SSD 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || || 4712366960206 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/431358/ 431358] || | |||
|- | |||
| Crucial BX100 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || || 0649528770660, 4540395601506 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/430405/ 430405] || | |||
|- | |||
| Crucial M550 2,5" 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || || 0649528766120, 4540395601186 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/376081/ 376081] || | |||
|- | |||
| Crucial MX200 2,5" 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || || 0649528770936 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/430409/ 430409] || | |||
|- | |||
| Fixstars SSD-1000M || 1 TB || {{Pending}} || $990 [http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/fixstars-launches-the-worlds-highest-density-ssd-ssd-3000m-for-media-and-entertainment-professionals-300037378.html press] || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/435159/fixstars-1000m-1tb/specificaties/ 435159] || | |||
|- | |||
| Fixstars SSD-3000M || 3 TB || {{Pending}} || [http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/fixstars-launches-the-worlds-highest-density-ssd-ssd-3000m-for-media-and-entertainment-professionals-300037378.html press] || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/435138/fixstars-3000m-3tb/specificaties/ 435138] || | |||
|- | |||
| [http://www.fixstars.com/en/news/?p=466 Fixstars SSD-6000M] || 6 TB || {{Pending}} || [http://www.fixstars.com/ja/ssd/spec/ spec] || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/435160/fixstars-5000m-5tb/specificaties/ 435160] || | |||
|- | |||
| Mushkin Reactor 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || || 0846651023070 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/425959/ 425959] || | |||
|- | |||
| Plextor M6 Pro 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || || 4718390737173 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/417659/ 417659] || | |||
|- | |||
| Samsung 840 EVO 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || || 8806085767584 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/340877/ 340877] || | |||
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| | | Samsung 850 EVO 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || || 8806086523042 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/422397/ 422397] || | ||
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| | | Samsung 850 Pro 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || || 0887276036304, 0887276057514, 8806086264679, 8806086338141, 8872760363044 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/398668/ 398668] || | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Samsung 850 EVO 2TB || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || € 860 [http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/samsung-electronics-leads-consumers-into-the-new-era-of-multi-terabyte-ssds-with-launch-of-2-tb-850-pro-and-850-evo/ press] || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/455056/ 455056] || | ||
|- | |||
| Samsung 850 Pro 2TB || 2 TB || {{Yes}} || € 1080 [http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/samsung-electronics-leads-consumers-into-the-new-era-of-multi-terabyte-ssds-with-launch-of-2-tb-850-pro-and-850-evo/ press] || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/455116/ 455116] || | |||
|- | |||
| Samsung Enterprise SSD PM863 SATA 3.84TB || 3,84TB || {{Yes}} || $2200 [http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20150720005857/en/Samsung-Unveils-Class-Data-Center-Solid-State#.VeYKks_ouM_ press] [http://www.samsung.com/us/business/support/owners/product/MZ-7LM3T8Z prod.page] || || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/456001/ 456001] || | |||
|- | |||
| Sandisk X300 2,5" 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || || 6196591215948 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/434082/ 434082] || | |||
|- | |||
| Sandisk X300s 2,5" 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || || 0619659116651, 0619659116682, 6196591166820 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/400714/ 400714] || | |||
|- | |||
| Transcend SSD370 (Premium) 1TB || 1 TB || {{Yes}} || || 0760557829782 || [http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/400541/ 400541] || | |||
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==== Reliability ==== | ==== Reliability ==== |
Latest revision as of 13:11, 21 August 2020
SATA 2.5" with max height of 9.5mm[1], minimal storage size 160GB (198 HDD models, 5 SSHD models and 362 SSD models comply to that). Ofcourse if you externalise the harddrive, (e.g. with a Nyko Data Bank) there is a whole world of 3.5" drives that are larger in storage size and also cheaper to be gotten.
SSD can be used, but it seems that on the PS4 there is even less incentive (compared to PS3) to replace the drive for a SSD, best price/performance are still 7200rpm drives or true hybrid SSHD drives
- http://www.pcper.com/reviews/General-Tech/PlayStation-4-PS4-HDD-SSHD-and-SSD-Performance-Testing
- http://uk.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PlayStation_4_Hard_Drive_Speed_Test_Comparison
- http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-is-it-worth-upgrading-your-ps4-with-an-ssd
it is unsure if TRIM is enabled by default for UFS on the PS4, but on BSD in general it can be enabled with tune2fs -t enable : http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=28004 see also : http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/ssd.html
Size[edit | edit source]
The reason for the discrepancy between "real" and "reported" HD size, is because windows reports GiB as GB See verbose explanation here, and a handy unit converter here.
- the standard 500GB harddrive is actually 465.76 GiB as reported by Windows
- after some splitting in 15 partitions, a 420.12 GiB mainpartition is left for the user
- on that mainpartition 408 GB is useable for the user
- after some splitting in 15 partitions, a 420.12 GiB mainpartition is left for the user
Capacity table[edit | edit source]
Market size (base10) |
Real Size (base2) |
mainpartition Size (base2) |
Reported Size (base2) |
"diff" Real-Reported (base2) |
Free (base2) |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
500 GB | 465.76 GiB | 420.12 GiB | 408 GiB | 57.661 GiB | 407 GiB |
640 GB | 596.046 GiB | ||||
750 GB | 698.492 GiB | ||||
1 TB | 931.323 GiB | 862 GiB | 69.323 GiB | 861 GiB | |
1.5 TB | 1396.984 GiB | 1313 GiB | 83.984 GiB | 1312 GiB | |
2 TB | 1862.645 GiB | 1768 GiB | 94.645 GiB | 1767 GiB | |
3 TB | 2793.968 GiB | 2673 GiB | 120.968 GiB | 2672 GiB | |
4 TB | 3725.29 GiB | 3579 GiB | 146.29 GiB | 3578 GiB | |
5 TB | 4656.61 GiB | ||||
6 TB | 5587.935 GiB | 5390 GiB | 197.935 GiB | 5389 GiB | |
7 TB | 6519.26 GiB | ||||
8 TB | 7450.581 GiB | ||||
9 TB | 8381.9 GiB | ||||
10 TB | 9313.226 GiB | ||||
11 TB | 10244.5 GiB | ||||
12 TB | 11175.871 GiB |
Replacing the harddrive[edit | edit source]
Replacing the drive does not void warranty and can be done this way:
Source: https://support.us.playstation.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5107/kw/ps4%20harddrive
Migrating / copy original data[edit | edit source]
Acronis True Image, EASEUS Disk Copy, Clonezilla, Paragon Backup & Recovery, Ghost, Gparted etc. can be used to copy 1:1 the original to the replacement.
- http://superuser.com/questions/99211/free-way-to-clone-hdd-to-ssdent Acronis True Image - free alternatives
Storage Speed[edit | edit source]
Speed comparison - video[edit | edit source]
(Tested: PlayStation 4 Hard Drive vs. SSD vs. Hybrid Drive)
HDD Speed - table[edit | edit source]
HDD Speed | Stock Drive | 1TB Hitachi Z7K1000 | 1TB Seagate Hybrid | 240GB Crucial M500 SSD | 2TB Seagate |
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Read Speed (Sequential/512K) | 116.5MB/s / 40.4MB/s | 132.9MB/s / 42.6MB/s | 95.9MB/s / 40.6MB/s | 191.9MB/s / 189.7MB/s | 122.1MB/s / 39.6MB/s |
Write Speed (Sequential/512K) | 114.4MB/s / 40.7MB/s | 127.9MB/s / 55.7MB/s | 106.7MB/s / 62.8MB/s | 211.8MB/s / 62.7MB/s | 120.9MB/s / 42.6MB/s |
Access Time | 21.1ms | 17.3ms | 6.9ms to 20.9ms | 0.06ms | 14.9ms |
Gigs per GBP | - | 18.7 | 13.3 | 2.7 | 31 |
source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-how-to-cheaply-upgrade-your-ps4-to-2tb
HDD Speed - Video[edit | edit source]
Stock HGST 500GB HDD vs OCZ Trion 100 480GB vs 1TB Seagate hybrid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OP0tgY4vmM
Compatibility[edit | edit source]
Economic contemplation[edit | edit source]
Type | €/GB | % |
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3.5" 7200 rpm HDD | 0,048 | 90.6 |
3.5" 5400 rpm HDD | 0,049 | 92.5 |
2.5" 5400 rpm HDD | 0,053 | 100 |
2.5" 7200 rpm HDD | 0,061 | 115.1 |
3.5" 7200 rpm SSHD | 0,071 | 134 |
2.5" 5400 rpm SHDD | 0,076 | 143.4 |
2.5" 1TB SSD | 0,358 | 675.5 |
2.5" 7200 rpm SSHD | NA | NA |
3.5" 5400 rpm SHDD | NA | NA |
3.5" 1TB SSD | NA | NA |
=>2TB HDD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner[edit | edit source]
Harddrives, with =>2 TB of space, which fits inside the PS4 without modding the case (like explained at the top of this page)
SKU | Size | Compatible | Remarks | EAN | TweakersID | ASIN |
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Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM003 aka Samsung HN-M201RAD |
2 TB | Yes | 411214 | B00LB5Y450 | ||
Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM004 | 2 TB | Yes | 411214 | |||
Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM005 | 2 TB | No | USB Interface | |||
Seagate Spinpoint M9T - ST2000LM006 | 2 TB | Yes | 411214 | |||
Seagate Backup Plus Slim Portable Drive - STDR2000100 | 2 TB | Yes | Contains Seagate Spinpoint M9T series ST2000LM003 | 364111 | B00FRHTSK4 | |
Seagate Backup Plus Ultra Slim Portable Drive - STEH2000200 | 2 TB | Yes | 7636490071966 | |||
Seagate Mobile HDD - ST2000LM007 | 2 TB | Yes | 7mm Height only | |||
Seagate Mobile HDD - ST2000LM009 | 2 TB | Yes | 7mm Height only | |||
Seagate Mobile HDD - ST2000LM010 | 2 TB | Yes | 7mm Height only | |||
Toshiba HDTB330EK3CA | 3 TB | Pending | ?USB Interface? length is 11.9cm | 446560 | B00WIMBNGI | |
Toshiba MQ03ABB300 | 3 TB | Pending | 15mm thick | 430568 | ||
Toshiba HDTC615XK3B1 | 1.5 TB | Yes | contains MQ01ABC150 with SATA | |||
Toshiba HDTB210XK3BA | 500 GB | No | 11.9mm length / contains MQ01UBD050 with USB | B005J7YBRW | ||
Hitachi Travelstar 7K1000 | 1 TB | Yes | 7200rpm, also PS3 suitable | 328664 | ||
Seagate BarraCuda ST2000LM015 | 2 TB | Yes | 5400rpm, 7mm Height 128MB Cache | |||
Seagate BarraCuda ST1000LM048 | 1TB | Yes | 7mm Height only | 763649098301 |
=>2TB HDD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner - Pricewatch link
Hybrid SSHD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner[edit | edit source]
SKU | Size | Compatible | Remarks | EAN | TweakersID | ASIN |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Seagate Laptop SSHD ST1000LM014 | 1 TB | Yes | 0763649042670, 7636490041228 | 331296 | ||
Seagate Laptop SSHD ST1000LM015 | 1 TB | Yes | Self-Encrypting Drive | 0763649044315, 7636490042867 | 385738 | |
Seagate Laptop SSHD ST1000LM028 | 1 TB | Yes | Self-Encrypting Drive | |||
Seagate Laptop Thin SSHD ST500LM000 | 500 GB | Yes | 7636490041242 | 331388 | ||
Seagate Laptop Thin SSHD ST500LM001 | 500 GB | Yes | Self-Encrypting Drive | 0763649042946, 7636490041495 | 385751 | |
Seagate Laptop Thin SSHD ST500LM020 | 500 GB | Yes | Self-Encrypting Drive | |||
Seagate Ultra Mobile SSHD ST500LX012 | 500 GB | Yes | ||||
Seagate Ultra Mobile SSHD ST500LX014 | 500 GB | Yes | Zero Gravity Sensor | |||
Seagate Ultra Mobile SSHD ST500LX016 | 500 GB | Yes | Self-Encrypting Drive | |||
Seagate Ultra Mobile SSHD ST500LX013 | 500 GB | Yes | Self-Encrypting Drive | |||
Seagate Laptop SSHD STBD750201 | 750 GB | Yes | Kit | |||
Seagate Laptop SSHD STBD1000400 | 1 TB | Yes | Kit | 0763649046852, 7636490045400 | 344102 | |
Seagate SSHD STBD1000101 | 1 TB | Yes | Seagate | 7636490072956 | ||
Toshiba MQ02ABD100H | 1 TB | Yes | ||||
Toshiba MQ02ABF050H | 500 GB | Yes | ||||
Toshiba MQ01ABD100H | 1 TB | Yes | ||||
Toshiba MQ01ABD075H | 750 GB | Yes | ||||
Toshiba MQ01ABF050H | 500 GB | Yes | ||||
Toshiba H200 | 1 TB | Yes | [1] | |||
Toshiba H200 | 500 GB | Yes | [2] | |||
Western Digital Black-II WD1001x06xdtl | NA | No | NonHybrid |
Hybrid SSHD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner - Pricewatch link
=>1TB SSD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner[edit | edit source]
SKU | Size | Compatible | Remarks | EAN | TweakersID | ASIN |
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Adata Premier Pro SP610 1TB | 1 TB | Yes | 4712366960336 | 412687 | ||
Adata Premier Pro SP910 SSD 1TB | 1 TB | Yes | 4712366960206 | 431358 | ||
Crucial BX100 1TB | 1 TB | Yes | 0649528770660, 4540395601506 | 430405 | ||
Crucial M550 2,5" 1TB | 1 TB | Yes | 0649528766120, 4540395601186 | 376081 | ||
Crucial MX200 2,5" 1TB | 1 TB | Yes | 0649528770936 | 430409 | ||
Fixstars SSD-1000M | 1 TB | Pending | $990 press | 435159 | ||
Fixstars SSD-3000M | 3 TB | Pending | press | 435138 | ||
Fixstars SSD-6000M | 6 TB | Pending | spec | 435160 | ||
Mushkin Reactor 1TB | 1 TB | Yes | 0846651023070 | 425959 | ||
Plextor M6 Pro 1TB | 1 TB | Yes | 4718390737173 | 417659 | ||
Samsung 840 EVO 1TB | 1 TB | Yes | 8806085767584 | 340877 | ||
Samsung 850 EVO 1TB | 1 TB | Yes | 8806086523042 | 422397 | ||
Samsung 850 Pro 1TB | 1 TB | Yes | 0887276036304, 0887276057514, 8806086264679, 8806086338141, 8872760363044 | 398668 | ||
Samsung 850 EVO 2TB | 2 TB | Yes | € 860 press | 455056 | ||
Samsung 850 Pro 2TB | 2 TB | Yes | € 1080 press | 455116 | ||
Samsung Enterprise SSD PM863 SATA 3.84TB | 3,84TB | Yes | $2200 press prod.page | 456001 | ||
Sandisk X300 2,5" 1TB | 1 TB | Yes | 6196591215948 | 434082 | ||
Sandisk X300s 2,5" 1TB | 1 TB | Yes | 0619659116651, 0619659116682, 6196591166820 | 400714 | ||
Transcend SSD370 (Premium) 1TB | 1 TB | Yes | 0760557829782 | 400541 |
=>1000GB SSD 2.5" 9.5mm or thinner - Pricewatch link
Reliability[edit | edit source]
Notes[edit | edit source]
- ↑ Sony lists compatibility as 9.5mm height, physically a 12.5mm can also fit, though a bit snuggly. Tried it with an ancient ST9190AG 0.504" 12.80mm (measured 12.3mm) drive, including the sled as usual
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