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   [[CECHHxx]]/[[CECHKxx]] [[APS-239]]    : 100V-240V 3.5-1.5A 50/60Hz (350-360W) -> 79.2-81.4% | 12V 23.5A (282W) 5V 0.6A (3W) | total 285W
   [[CECHHxx]]/[[CECHKxx]] [[APS-239]]    : 100V-240V 3.5-1.5A 50/60Hz (350-360W) -> 79.2-81.4% | 12V 23.5A (282W) 5V 0.6A (3W) | total 285W
: The SKU Models table has several issues: it oversimplifies information conveyed on other pages and it does not distinguise within SKUs of the variants available (as in the different PSUs used in them). Further it does not distinguise between max<sub>i</sub>, peak<sub>i</sub>, max<sub>o</sub> or peak<sub>o</sub> (and if we would, if we would assume the lowest/highest or mean of each of them for the overal range). [[User:Euss|Euss]] ([[User talk:Euss|talk]]) 21:04, 3 February 2015 (EST)
: The SKU Models table has several issues: it oversimplifies information conveyed on other pages and it does not distinguise within SKUs of the variants available (as in the different PSUs used in them). Further it does not distinguise between max<sub>i</sub>, peak<sub>i</sub>, max<sub>o</sub> or peak<sub>o</sub> (and if we would, if we would assume the lowest/highest or mean of each of them for the overal range). [[User:Euss|Euss]] ([[User talk:Euss|talk]]) 21:04, 3 February 2015 (EST)
SKU Models main page is high bandwidth page, nominated for splitting content, proposal to split in seperate pages as:
{{Console Information}}
* SKU Models
** Retail:
***FAT
***Slim (2K)
***Slim 3K
** non Retail:
***Reference Tool (Tool/DECR)
***Debug station (Debug/DEX)
***Arcade
***AV Testing Tool (DECHS)
***Prototypes / Preproduction models
** Comparison of functionality
* Regioning
* Datecode / Manufacturing Date


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Revision as of 09:55, 22 August 2015

missing file: File:Date Code Superslim.jpg


Max Power ratings

(Corrected the max wattage information of the CECHGxx and CECHHxx models from 280W to 360W. I know this because I myself have a CECHH01 PS3 and the unit states the Current: 3A and Voltage: 120V on the back, therefore: 120V x 3A= 360W.) 67.71.80.71 01:07, 4 February 2015

Note that 120V-only supplies don't exist. The highest currentrating is for the lowest supported voltage (which is 100V notated on the Power Supply powerrating label):
 CECHGxx APS-231             : 100V-240V 3.5-1.5A 50/60Hz (350-360W) -> 79.2-81.4% | 12V 23.5A (282W) 5V 0.6A (3W) | total 285W
 CECHGxx LSEB1226B1          : 220V-240V 1.7-1.6A 50/60Hz (374-384W) -> 74.2-76.2% | 12V 23.5A (282W) 5V 0.6A (3W) | total 285W
 CECHGxx LSEB1254A1          : 220V-240V 1.7-1.6A 50/60Hz (374-384W) -> 74.2-76.2% | 12V 23.5A (282W) 5V 0.6A (3W) | total 285W
 CECHHxx EADP-300AB          : 100V-240V 3.6-1.5A 50/60Hz (360-360W) ->      79.2% | 12V 23.5A (282W) 5V 0.6A (3W) | total 285W
 CECHHxx/CECHKxx APS-239     : 100V-240V 3.5-1.5A 50/60Hz (350-360W) -> 79.2-81.4% | 12V 23.5A (282W) 5V 0.6A (3W) | total 285W
The SKU Models table has several issues: it oversimplifies information conveyed on other pages and it does not distinguise within SKUs of the variants available (as in the different PSUs used in them). Further it does not distinguise between maxi, peaki, maxo or peako (and if we would, if we would assume the lowest/highest or mean of each of them for the overal range). Euss (talk) 21:04, 3 February 2015 (EST)

Other reference: http://www.trisaster.de/page/index.php?topic=78


Seems this SKU has had 2 different motherboard releases:

  • CECH-250.A - JTP-001 - serial : 1-882-481-31
  • CECH-250.B - JTP-001 - serial : 1-882-481-31
  • CECH-250.A - JSD-001 - added by User:MikeM64 - serial: 1-882-770-31
  • CECH-250.B - JSD-001 - added by User:MikeM64 - serial: 1-882-770-31


remark: MikeM64 : CECH-2501A with JSD-001 board, came prefactory with 3.40, which is also the lowest downgradeable firmware

Raw Model Data from my JSD-001 (CECH-2501A): 0x00, 0x01, 0x00, 0x84, 0x00, 0x08, 0x00, 0x05


QA doesn't give more downgradeability compared to JIG / Factory/Service Mode

dospiedra	i can downgrade with jig to 1.00 max
dospiedra	on 60 gb retro only , on my fat 80gb only to 2.30

rms	in my case 1.97
rms	cechg01

eussNL	dospiedra: what model whas that FAT 80GB ? CECHE/K/L/M ?
dospiedra	no idea, was assembled piece by piece and the shell model does not match the plate
dospiedra	sure is 16mb nor
dospiedra	and sata drive
eussNL	that would make it K/L/M
dospiedra	not 90nm
eussNL	all 3 are 65nm
dospiedra	I have no idea of exact model is
eussNL	K = DIA-002 board, L or M is VER-001 board
dospiedra	001 board
dospiedra	I am not sure
eussNL	you could run rms' infotool on it, to make sure, but I am not asking you to go for that trouble for me
dospiedra	rms later try to run it right now I'm busy, but I promise to give the exact model in few hours

dospiedra	hi , my ps3 model isCECHL04

ofc it doesn't, since there are no drivers for the newer system components in older firmware versions ;)

TESTS... collapsing retail tables

PS3 Fat
PS3 Model Name CECHAxx CECHBxx CECHCxx CECHExx CECHGxx CECHHxx CECHJxx CECHKxx CECHLxx CECHMxx CECHPxx CECHQxx
Type 0x01 0x02 0x03 0x04 0x05 0x06 0x07 0x08
Production Time
Manufacturing Date
Date Code
Firmware Minimal 1.00
Factory 1.00
Releases 1.02
Console
Components
HDD Seagate ST96812AS (60 GB) ST920217AS (20 GB) ST96812AS (60 GB) ST980811AS (80 GB) ST940210AS or ST9402115AS (40 GB) ST9402115AS (40 GB) ST940210AS (40 GB) ? (80 GB)
Hitachi HTS541640J9SA00 (40 GB) HTS542580K9SA00 (80 GB) ? (80 GB)
Fujitsu MHW2040BH (40 GB) MHZ2080BH (80 GB) ? (80 GB) MHZ2160BH (160 GB)
Toshiba MK8052GSX (80 GB) ? (80 GB) MK1652GSX (160 GB) ?
Bluray
Components
Drive BD-400 BD-410
Chasis KEM-400AAA KEM-410ACA
Laser pickup KES-400A KES-410A
Board BMD-001 BMD-001 or BMD-002 BMD-003 BMD-006 BMD-006 or BMD-011 BMD-021 or BMD-031
Controller CXD5063AGG-1 CXD5063AGG-1 or CXD5065GB-1 CXD5065GB-1 CXD5065GB-1 or R8J32800FPV CXD5065GB-1 or R8J32810FPV1
Mechacon BD7956FS
Power Supply Unit
HeatSink Type 1 Type 2 Type 3 Type 4
Fan ... ... ... ...
Switch board CSW-001 Integrated on Mother Board
Multi Card board CMC-001 No CMC-001 No
Wifi/BT board CWI-001 CWI-001 (no wifi) CWI-001 CWI-002 UWB-001 Integrated on Mother Board
MotherBoard
Components
Motherboard Name COK-001 COK-002 SEM-001 DIA-001 DIA-002 VER-001
Syscon Revs. 1 CXR713120-201GB CXR714120-301GB SW-301
Revs. 2 CXR713120-202GB CXR714120-302GB SW-302
Revs. 3 CXR713120-203GB
Processing CELL CXD2964GB or CXD2964AGB (90nm) CXD2981GB or CXD2981AGB (65nm) CXD2989GB or CXD2989AGB (65nm) CXD2990GB or CXD2990AGB (65nm)
XDR RAM X5116ACSE-3C-E or K4Y50164UC-JCB3 (4x64 MB) X5116ACSE-3C-E (4x64 MB) K4Y50164UE-JCB3 (4x64 MB) X5116ADSE-3C-E or IDRD51-0-A1F1C-32C (4x64 MB)
Graphics RSX CXD2971GB or CXD2971AGB or CXD2971BGB or CXD2971DGB (90nm) CXD2982GB (65nm) CXD2991GB (65nm)
GDDR3 RAM ? ? ?
PS2
Compatibility
EE+GS CXD2953AGB (EE+GS) CXD2972GB (GS only) No
RD RAM K4R271669F or K4R271669H (2x16 MB) No
MultiAV bridge CXD9208GP2 No
Audio/Video MultiAV CXM4024R-T6
HDMI Silicon Image Sil9132CBU Panasonic MN8647091
SouthBridge CXD2973GB CXD2979GB CXD2984GB CXD2984AGB
USB
SATA/PATA bridge 88SA8040C0-TBC1C000-P107 No
GbLAN
Wifi/BT Controller On Wifi/BT Board (88W8580-BAN1) 88W8580-BAN1
Starship2 CXD4302GB-T6 or CXD4302GB-1 CXD4392GB CXD9909GB No
Flash NAND Samsung K9F1G08U0A-PIB0 Samsung K9F1G08U0B-PIB0
NOR Spansion S29GL128N90TFIR2
Samsung K8P2716UZC-QI4D ??? Samsung K8Q2815UQB-PI4B (3rd gen)
Spansion S29GL128P90TFIR2
PS3 Slim
PS3 Model Name CECH-20xx CECH-21xx CECH-25xx CECH-30xx
Type 0x09 0x0A 0x0B 0xC
Production Time 6 Months 6 Months 12 Months 15 Months
Manufacturing Date
Date Code
July 2009 ~ December 2009
9C, 9D
January 2010 ~ June 2010
0A, 0B
July 2010 ~ June 2011
0C, 0D, 1A, 1B
July 2011 ~ September 2012
1C, 1D, 2A, 2B, 2C
Firmware Minimal 2.70 (9C) 3.20 (0A) 3.40 (0C), or 3.50 (0D, 1A), or 3.56 (1A, 1B), or 3.60 (1B) 3.60, 3.72 (1C)
Factory 2.70 (9C), or 2.76 (9?) ? 3.40, 3.41 (0C), or 3.40, 3.50 (0D), or 3.50, 3.56 (1A), or 3.56, 3.60 (1B) 3.65, 3.72 (1C)
Releases 3.00, 3.01 (9C), 3.10, 3.15 (9D) 3.20 (0A), 3.21, 3.30, 3.40 (0B) 3.40, 3.41, 3.42, 3.50 (0C), 3.55 (0D), 3.56, 3.60 (1A), 3.61, 3.65, 3.66 (1B) 3.70, 3.72 (1C), 3.73, 4.00 (1D), 4.10, 4.11 (2A), 4.20 (2B), 4.21, 4.25 (2C)
Console
Components
HDD 120 GB Hitachi HTS545012B9SA00 or Toshiba MK1255GSX 120 GB HDD not available
250 GB Toshiba MK2555GSX 250 GB HDD not available
160 GB 160 GB HDD not available Toshiba MK1665GSX or MK1676GSX
320 GB 320 GB HDD not available Toshiba MK3276GSX
Bluray
Components
Drive BD-450 BD-460 BD-470
Chasis KEM-450AAA KEM-450DAA KEM-450EAA
Laser pickup KES-450A (SA-CD No) KES-450D (SA-CD No) KES-450E (SA-CD No)
Board BMD-051 or BMD-061 BMD-065 Integrated on Mother Board
Controller R8J32820FPV1 or CXD5130R-1 CXD5131R-1 Integrated on Mother Board
Mechacon BD7969EFV Integrated on Mother Board
Power Supply Unit APS-250 or EADP-220BB (221 watts) APS-270 or EADP-200DB (197 watts) APS-306 or EADP-185AB (161 watts)
HeatSink Type 5 Type 6 (Integrated on Mother Board Plate)
Fan Nidec G10C12MS1AH-56J14 or Nidec G10C12MS2AH-56J14 or Delta KFB1012HE or NMB-MAT BG1004-B045-P00 (10cm diameter) Nidec G80E12NS1ZN-56J14 (8cm diameter)
Switch board DSW-001 HSW-001 KSW-001
MotherBoard
Components
Motherboard Name DYN-00x SUR-00x JTP-00x JSD-00x KTE-001
Syscon Revs. 1 SW2-301 SW3-301
Revs. 2 SW2-302
Revs. 3 SW2-303
Processing CELL CXD2992AGB (45nm) CXD2992GB (45nm) CXD2996GB ? (45nm)
XDR RAM Elpida X5116ADSE-3C-E (4x64MB) Elpida X1032BASE-3C-F (2x128MB) Elpida X1032BASE-3CA2-F (2x128MB)
Graphics RSX CXD2991CGB or CXD2991EGB (65nm) CXD5300AGB (40nm) CXD5300A1GB (40nm) CXD5300A1GB or CXD5300DGB (40nm) CXD5301DGB (40nm)
GDDR3 RAM Qimonda HYB18H512322AF-14 (4x64MB) ? (4x64MB) Samsung K4J52324KJ-JC14 (4x64MB) ?
Audio/Video MultiAV CXM4027R
HDMI Panasonic MN8647091 (CEC Commands supported)
SouthBridge CXD9963GB (ENCDEC and USB integrated)
Bluray
Components
Controller On Bluray Board R8J32830FPV1 CXD5131R-1 CXD5132R-1
Mechacon On Bluray Board BD7969EFV BD7979EFV
GbLAN Marvell Alaska 88E1118R-NNC2 Marvell Alaska 88E1310-NNB2
Wifi/BT Controller Marvell Avastar 88W8780 Marvell Avastar 88W8781 ?
Flash NOR Spansion S29GL128N90TFIR2
Samsung K8Q2815UQB-PI4B (3rd gen) Samsung K8P2716UZC-QI4D (4th gen)
Spansion S29GL128P90TFIR2
Macronix MX29GL128ELT2I-90G < - - same macronix for all slim models ? - - > Macronix MX29GL128ELT2I-90G

Critics and suggestions

  • When 1 part gets changed in table, it needs to be changed on all subpages that relate (wrote by euss)
    • Yes, thats a problem, but the purpose of this tables is to replace the ones in frontpage... though is a long road to complete all the info, but when completed the table will be "legacy" (and with this i mean is not needed to edit it anymore so his complexity doesnt matters in long term)--Sandungas (talk) 00:32, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
  • The table is NOT collapseable (wrote by euss)
    • Is not the kind of table that could be collapsed or reordered--Sandungas (talk) 00:32, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
  • In this photo of a JSD-001 http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/images/a/a1/JSD-001-fuses-thermisters.front.jpg it looks like the XDRAM chips are X1032BASE-3CA2-F and X1032BASE-3DA2-F (one of each kind combined together) but searching in google for X1032BASE-3DA2-F doesnt returns any result, also CECH-30xx models are still using the same XDRAM chips than CECH-25xx, so X1032BASE-3DA2-F probably doesnt exists and is just a disturbance on the photo --Sandungas (talk) 00:32, 28 May 2015 (UTC)